Grump's Power Plant Grow.

[GrumpAzz]

Hey folks. The first seed from this round showed up this morning so I figured it's time to get a new journal going. This grow will be Power Plant by Dutch Passion, the original breeders of the strain. It's supposed to be a heavy yielder so, with my 3x3 SCROG screen, hopefully I'll wind up with a plentiful bounty after harvesting what will be my second grow ever. Let's kick this off.

Equipment:
SpiderFarmer 5x5 tent
SpiderFarmer SE5000 LED with controller
AC Infinity Controller 69 pro
6" AC Infinity Exhaust fan and Cabon Filter
6" AC Infinity inline fan for intake
2x AC Infinity UIS plugs for heater/humidifier.
14 gallon totes for plant and control resevoirs
30 gallon tote for top-off resevoir
2x BlueLab gaurdian monitors

Nutrients:
General Hydroponics Flora Trio and CalMag
Plant Success Orca Liquid Mycorrhizae
Mr Fulvic's Fulvic Acid

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Dropped a couple beans into some Gro Plugs Thursday evening and the first of the two made it's breakthrough sometime last night. I've got them in AC Infinity's Germination Kit with heatmat and Lights included. Once my current harvest is dried and out of the tent, I'll move in the better of two.


Thanks for tuning in to my second grow EVER. Feel free to post your questions and comments. Despite my name, I'm not really all that grumpy.

& y'all

 

[CannaGranny]

You forgot to mention your scrog top!

 

[GrumpAzz]

You forgot to mention your scrog top!

I sure did. Got that added that in there.

 

[steamroller]

Glad to see you right back at it.
It is interest and passion that makes some better.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Glad to see you right back at it.
It is interest and passion that makes some better.

It's been sooo much fun. I can't wait to continue learning and improving. I already have a couple things I'll be doing differently and I'm excited about it.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Looks like choosing the best of the two is an easy decision this time. Only one of the two beans popped. They were freebies so I'm not too concerned.

 

[GrumpAzz]

The one that showed up on Monday has much slower growth than my last round, too. They threw their second set of leaves in a day or so after showing up. This one had, what looked like, a drop of water accumulated on its leaves. Must've dropped off of the dome. I wicked it off last night and it's looking a lot better today but there's something weird about it. I'll snap a picture after work and show ya what I'm talking about.

 

[MDK]

Been years since i heard the strain mentioned this'll be neat

 

[GrumpAzz]

Been years since i heard the strain mentioned this'll be neat

The interweb says it can yield several kilos outside... what's that? Like 10 pounds? That's a heavy ass plant.

 

[tobh]

The interweb says it can yield several kilos outside... what's that? Like 10 pounds? That's a heavy ass plant.

2.2 lbs = 1 kilo

Power plant was used to help bulk up light yielding cultivars for a long time.

i've had a lot of seedlings struggle initially. very rarely have they moved fast out the gate, which is part of why i prefer clones. but, of my seed runs the runts always seemed to be the ones that ended up taking the show. once they hit their stride, they take off.

 

[GrumpAzz]

2.2 lbs = 1 kilo

I know the conversion but what's your definition of several? For me, it's 5-7, so that seems like a freakin ton of weed.

 

[GrumpAzz]

i've had a lot of seedlings struggle initially. very rarely have they moved fast out the gate, which is part of why i prefer clones. but, of my seed runs the runts always seemed to be the ones that ended up taking the show. once they hit their stride, they take off.

It had some weird discoloration on one of the leaves when I left this morning and was only an inch and a half, maybe. I added the extended sides to the dome for the extra vents and bumped the light up a notch. My wife went back to check on it and she said it's nearly 5 inches tall now.

 

[tobh]

I know the conversion but what's your definition of several? For me, it's 5-7, so that seems like a freakin ton of weed.

my definition? several is four or more, based on a couple being two, a few being three, and several being four or more. either way, it's a fuckton of weed lol

 

[Rootsruler]

It's been sooo much fun. I can't wait to continue learning and improving. I already have a couple things I'll be doing differently and I'm excited about it.

It's equally as much fun for us to watch you put everything you've learned into a successful grow!

 

[GrumpAzz]

I think the extra vents helped her out some. It's hard to see the weird discoloration I mentioned before. The next set of leaves made a bit of progress today.

I'm gonna have to rethink all my lady's past compliments on my downstairs since she said the seedling looked 5". It's maybe 2"

 

[GoodShit97]

I'm gonna have to rethink all my lady's past compliments on my downstairs since she said the seedling looked 5". It's maybe 2"

Damn brother, im sorry

 

[tobh]

I think the extra vents helped her out some. It's hard to see the weird discoloration I mentioned before. The next set of leaves made a bit of progress today.

I'm gonna have to rethink all my lady's past compliments on my downstairs since she said the seedling looked 5". It's maybe 2"
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can't fault her man, women are told 2" is 6" all their lives

 

[GrumpAzz]

I moved the little seedling to her new netpot. It had almost a 2" root coming out of the bottom of the plug. I went with a 4" netpot this time, hoping the roots will find water faster. That'll also give me a couple inches of water in the lower resevoirs, hopefully allowing me a more stable water system.

 

[tobh]

why you using a dome this late post germination? risking damping off my guy

 

[GrumpAzz]

why you using a dome this late post germination? risking damping off my guy

Too humid?

It's the only place I can really house it for now until the buds in the tent dry. The vents are wide open, if that helps.

 

[GrumpAzz]

I'll add a fan to the area.

 

[tobh]

Too humid?

It's the only place I can really house it for now until the buds in the tent dry. The vents are wide open, if that helps.

potentially. personally i don't use a dome at all when germinating given plants so young can't transpire yet so VPD doesn't have any effect. those that i know do use domes pull them as soon as germination happens, and the dome simply serves to keep the media moist without them having to rehydrate before the seedling breaks the surface.

 

[steamroller]

Domes are for clones.
First month done within reason will have no adverse effects in the long run.
I basically ignored my seedlings and had the whole house AC on just messing with them.
Once they hit the room the game changed.
Seeds are definitely different than clones with their needs.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Domes are for clones.
First month done within reason will have no adverse effects in the long run.
I basically ignored my seedlings and had the whole house AC on just messing with them.
Once they hit the room the game changed.
Seeds are definitely different than clones with their needs.

I want to assume she'll only be in the dome another week or so, max. My buds are on day six of drying with temps in the tent around 67-72 degrees and humidity between 46-54%. I'm not sure what that equates to in terms of dry time. I'll be checking stems tonight. Everything I've read says 10-14 days so I'm sure they still have a several days to go.

 

[smoke]

I want to assume she'll only be in the dome another week or so, max. My buds are on day six of drying with temps in the tent around 67-72 degrees and humidity between 46-54%. I'm not sure what that equates to in terms of dry time. I'll be checking stems tonight. Everything I've read says 10-14 days so I'm sure they still have a several days to go.

Id be checking just how dry they are, with the temperature and humidity your talking, if they are not too dry (below 57%) already

 

[tobh]

Id be checking just how dry they are, with the temperature and humidity your talking, if they are not too dry (below 57%) already

mind is in the gutter, but this response aligns with mine in some kind of way lol

 

[GrumpAzz]

Id be checking just how dry they are, with the temperature and humidity your talking, if they are not too dry (below 57%) already

I checked again last night. The stems don't crack yet. There was a little crunch when squeezing a few nugs, but it seemed to be just the very outside layer of stuff that's gonna get trimmed off, some of the leaves that were left. They don't crush to powder and they were extremely sticky. Last night was 8 days (two Sundays). I had hoped to be able to trim on a weekend but it's not looking like that's gonna happen.

 

[tobh]

I checked again last night. The stems don't crack yet. There was a little crunch when squeezing a few nugs, but it seemed to be just the very outside layer of stuff that's gonna get trimmed off, some of the leaves that were left. They don't crush to powder and they were extremely sticky. Last night was 8 days (two Sundays). I had hoped to be able to trim on a weekend but it's not looking like that's gonna happen.

sounds like you've got three to four days before they're ready. should have a little crunch then sponge feel on the bulky parts, then they're ready for paper bags (if that's your route). cure it up right bud! don't fuck up now, this is the first most critical moment in growing.

 

[GrumpAzz]

sounds like you've got three to four days before they're ready. should have a little crunch then sponge feel on the bulky parts, then they're ready for paper bags (if that's your route). cure it up right bud! don't fuck up now, this is the first most critical moment in growing.

Dude I've been worrying about it all week! I can't let all my hard work go to waste. Everything I've read said 10 to 14 days so yesterday was the first day I went in and checked. I've got pretty uniform sized nugs so I assume they'll all be drying pretty evenly. I'm glad the crunch I ignored is normal. I've read about give and take like they should sqeeze and bounce back some.

I've got 20 one ounce grove bags on the ready.

 

[tobh]

Dude I've been worrying about it all week! I can't let all my hard work go to waste. Everything I've read said 10 to 14 days so yesterday was the first day I went in and checked. I've got pretty uniform sized nugs so I assume they'll all be drying pretty evenly. I'm glad the crunch I ignored is normal. I've read about give and take like they should sqeeze and bounce back some.

I've got 20 one ounce grove bags on the ready.

Yeah, it's an art figuring out the right moisture level. I like to wait till the buds fell almost like a hop that's just on the cusp of ready for harvest. Kinda spongy, kinda crispy, with a little bit of bounce back when squeezed. I also don't crack stems that aren't right at the base of flowers because it doesn't make sense to me to check somewhere that's a distance from the center of the bud. A nice crack sound but maintaining the integrity of the stem is about primo ime.

Typically I'll shuck the buds into paper bags at that point and let em start to cure for another two weeks. After a day or two the exterior crunch will be gone and the buds will be spongy and sticky again as the moisture equalizes, and the temps will return in force by that point.

 

[GoodShit97]

Yeah, it's an art figuring out the right moisture level. I like to wait till the buds fell almost like a hop that's just on the cusp of ready for harvest. Kinda spongy, kinda crispy, with a little bit of bounce back when squeezed. I also don't crack stems that aren't right at the base of flowers because it doesn't make sense to me to check somewhere that's a distance from the center of the bud. A nice crack sound but maintaining the integrity of the stem is about primo ime.

Typically I'll shuck the buds into paper bags at that point and let em start to cure for another two weeks. After a day or two the exterior crunch will be gone and the buds will be spongy and sticky again as the moisture equalizes, and the temps will return in force by that point.

This is exactly how i do it every time. Plant has been hanging about 2 weeks now, tomorrow im gonna buck it all off into a paper bag and let it sit for 2 more weeks, then ill trim/jar it and smoke it as i want it.
I dont have time to cure for more than a couple weeks. Otherwise my wife spends money on weed that we didnt need to spend.

 

[tobh]

This is exactly how i do it every time. Plant has been hanging about 2 weeks now, tomorrow im gonna buck it all off into a paper bag and let it sit for 2 more weeks, then ill trim/jar it and smoke it as i want it.
I dont have time to cure for more than a couple weeks. Otherwise my wife spends money on weed that we didnt need to spend.

Yup, same boat here. Moving fucked up my cycles so she's been spending money on dispo shit but we'll be back on track after this harvest.

 

[Rootsruler]

It's really a balancing act that you have to experience a few times before you really get the hang of it. @tobh explained it perfectly. Snap but not quite. Crispy but not quite. It's kind of 2 steps forward one step back. Dry it right to that edge then jar it so that you draw that moisture from the interior. Once you hit that equilibrium and you cure them a little more, I like to leave 'em for a couple weeks more just to get that peak flavor and taste and still get peak THC, you'll really enjoy how those flowers will change in complexity the deeper you smoke your way through your harvest.

 

[GrumpAzz]

It's really a balancing act that you have to experience a few times before you really get the hang of it. @tobh explained it perfectly. Snap but not quite. Crispy but not quite. It's kind of 2 steps forward one step back. Dry it right to that edge then jar it so that you draw that moisture from the interior. Once you hit that equilibrium and you cure them a little more, I like to leave 'em for a couple weeks more just to get that peak flavor and taste and still get peak THC, you'll really enjoy how those flowers will change in complexity the deeper you smoke your way through your harvest.

Halfway through trimming now... i'm guessing close to a half pound with plenty of trim to make into edibles and shit.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Halfway through trimming now... i'm guessing close to a half pound with plenty of trim to make into edibles and shit.

Couldn't get it all done because I grew a plant full of popcorn nugs

I pulled the remaining nugs from the stems and stuck 'em in some grove bags for now. I'll get to it tomorrow. Prolly another 2 or 3 hours worth of trimming. I've been at it for 7 hours already. I need bed.

 

[SSgrower]

Farmed Out, nice run for ya I hope, rest and back to work, Hump hump. SSgrower

 

[tobh]

Couldn't get it all done because I grew a plant full of popcorn nugs

I pulled the remaining nugs from the stems and stuck 'em in some grove bags for now. I'll get to it tomorrow. Prolly another 2 or 3 hours worth of trimming. I've been at it for 7 hours already. I need bed.

just wait till you start pulling more weight. you'll be wanting to outsource the trimming work because it. fucking. sucks. lol

 

[GrumpAzz]

I should be able to up the size of those nugs with a little more proactive defoliation, eh? I slacked a bit on trimming her up last time around. Reducing the number of colas would've probably helped, also.

Add those to the list of things I'll be doing differently this time around.

@smoke's advice to push her another week or so would've helped, too. Let her bulk up a bit more. I'll take that to heart this time around. Should've just listened to one of our masters. Trimming all these popcorn nugs is a PAIN.

 

[tobh]

I should be able to up the size of those nugs with a little more proactive defoliation, eh? I slacked a bit on trimming her up last time around. Reducing the number of colas would've probably helped, also.

Add those to the list of things I'll be doing differently this time around.

@smoke's advice to push her another week or so would've helped, too. Let her bulk up a bit more. I'll take that to heart this time around. Should've just listened to one of our masters. Trimming all these popcorn nugs is a PAIN.

it depends on the system, but yes, heavy defoliation and eliminating anything that's not going to produce usable product early in flower would help bulk up and produce more uniform flower sets. allowing the plants to run slightly longer would help as well.

you'll get it down after a few grows. eventually you'll either figure out your own processes or you'll do like a lot of us and just toss anything that's not bag-worthy. when you're staring down a couple pounds of product to trim you'd rather not fuck with anything that's not appealing, and you'll have enough that tossing a couple ounces of larf and popcorn won't have a significant impact on overall yield.

 

[Max]

Nice..I’m going to jump on now..I never caught up on your last grow lol.