Cult Classic Mellow Fellow in RDWC - Bud Builders

[SweetLeafGrow]

RDWC Grow of Mellow Fellow by Cult Classic Seeds

So, everything here is in flower, time to get another round going while keeping within the stupid plant counts. This one is going in the 3 x 3 as soon as the Apples and Bananas finishes in 4-5 weeks. I've got an idea that I am going to implement, seen a few others doing this, definitely not my idea but it works!

I've got some 2 gallon buckets, going to get some black spray paint and paint one of them, put a 3.75" net pot in the lid and make myself a Binky Bucket hydro nursery type system for young seedlings. A small hole in the side for an air line, with an air stone in the bottom and this gets me a small hydro system perfect for seedlings. This gets me a starter plant to go immediately in the 3x3 as soon as things there finish up and will speed the next round up considerably.

After much thought and consideration, I've decided to go with the strain Mellow Fellow by Cult Classic Seeds. Thanks to @CannaGranny for helping me decide when we were talking about her experiences with a strain called Cement Shoes. I could not find Cement Shoes but I recalled I had something with that strain as a parent so I dug out my seeds and sure enough, found the Mellow Fellow, who's father is Cement Shoes and the mother would be Marshmallow OG, an elite strain by Compound Genetics, the same breeders that put out the Apples and Bananas and the Grape Gas, among others. I'm thinking this will be a hard hitting medicinal strain that will be good to have in my medicine.

I'm germinating using the floating method I recently read about here at Bud Builders. 50/50 water and 3% H2O2, will see how this little seed does. I still have to make my Binky Bucket but will post pics of that once I get it built and the seeding in place.

 

[steamroller]

You said Binky~!

In.

 

[Cool_Beans]

Binky Bucket let's go lol.

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

Got my Binky Bucket all built and this seed sprouted. Got her in the basket and waiting for green surface breakage.

The plan is to use this as a mini hydro system to get a seedling going that will go in the 3x3 after the Apples and Bananas finishes in 3-4 weeks time. This should give this next grow a good head start into veg and do it all over again. Hoping for some awesome medicine from this strain!

 

[Cool_Beans]

Nice! I found a humidity dome works good w developing seedlings and clones in the bucket since all the rh you need and then some comes up through the netcup and self-humidifies. I've got some large domes with vents on top, if you want I can send you one to try.

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

I've got some large domes with vents on top, if you want I can send you one to try.

Thank you for the great offer bro! I do have one of these and I have used them in the past. I might have jumped the gun a bit getting the sprout in the system already but I guess I will see how the sprout does initially. I can move it over to the dome tray if needed.

What would be cool is if I could find a round dome that would fit over this bucket for the first few days after sprout. I think it's probably a good idea to do this especially since I do not have a tent for this nursery bucket so I'll be winging it with the environment for a bit, thanks for reminding me!

 

[Cool_Beans]

This is what I have. They came as a 6pack and but I only needed a couple.

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

Those look perfect. I probably would take one of those! I thought you meant one of those trays with a dome that comes with it.

What does it measure across? These buckets I have are 2 gallon and I can measure after I get me some coffee in me.

 

[Cool_Beans]

8" from outside edges of the flange, 7" tall.

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

These will work perfectly, thank you so much for the cool offer, I accept

Love to have a link where you found these, I might just order some. I'm thinking about getting another one of these binky buckets going in the future.

 

[Cool_Beans]

These will work perfectly, thank you so much for the cool offer, I accept

Love to have a link where you found these, I might just order some. I'm thinking about getting another one of these binky buckets going in the future.

Ok I'll see if I can find a link for you. I have no problem sending one out if you want to use it a bit 1st. Let me know brotha.

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[SweetLeafGrow]

Thanks for the link, yea, those are a really cool find, they will work great on the Binky Buckets.

By the way, got a sprout breaking the surface so well on the way here! The first one died on me right after it sprouted but started another and it's doing much better.

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

So the Binky Bucket seems to be working pretty good. No roots out of the bottom yet but I expect them in the next couple of days or so. Got the light dialed in at 200 PPFD at the height of the plant, doesn't seem to be stretching like seedlings tend to do if they do not have enough light.

So far, so good.

 

[Cool_Beans]

I think this bubba kush was about 3 weeks SLG, from roots touching down to being hungry and ready to go in the rdwc.

 

[Observer]

I'm germinating using the floating method I recently read about here at Bud Builders. 50/50 water and 3% H2O2, will see how this little seed does.

What floating method yall talking about lol?

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

I can’t remember where I saw it, but it was on another post here on the board. I tried it with the first seed, and it did not work out well I went back to the paper towel and had much better success.

 

[Observer]

ah lol

im just fuckin around with this above and seeing, it opened within the first 24hours in the stoam collar with lid on it in that container

and the tap root is growin thick

 

[Nesta]

What floating method yall talking about lol?

Are you talking about Float-tech? I tried that with my last two seed runs and had damn near 100% germ rates within a few days. My most recent thread with Dragons Flame Genetics had 11 beans 100% within 48 hours.

https://budbuilders.org/threads/dragons-flame-genetics-blackberry-moonshine-bx1-x-triangleskunk-tester-grow.301/

 

[Observer]

oh

LITERALLY floating seeds in a body of water

ah thats my go to method for germ, always have.

i took it up a notch with video posted above lol

 

[Observer]

What floating method yall talking about lol?

"Advanced" floating method" lol

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

I am out of town right now, but Mrs. sweetleaf has it been doing a great job taking care of our plants, took some pictures of the Mellow Fellow seedling in the Binky Bucket. Got a long taproot going on there and slowly putting on mass up top. Once I get home, I’m going to get that system ready and get this young lady put it in it.

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

Almost a week since last update, the Apples and Bananas is in jars and I got this tent cleaned out and put the old PAH system back together for the Mellow Fellow run. The Binky Bucket served well as a nursery but it may be an issue with water temps if I have to stay in these for very long. We're gonna find out with the Imperium X which is doing well so far. This Mellow Fellow gal had some undesirable brown on the roots when I pulled her from the BB. I took a cup full of RO and a squirt of enzymes and hydroguard in that water and then soaked the roots in that for 10 minutes before I put her in this pre-prepared system, 5.8 pH and ppm at 300 1:1:1:1 GH Trio and Calmag. I also prepped the res with AgSil 16.

 

[moe.red]

Looks good, I'm sure it will be fine.

The white on top of the cube - is that micos or maybe dried salts? If that is salts, I would be curious as to what you think caused that? If fungi - carry on!

 

[GrumpAzz]

Looks good, I'm sure it will be fine.

The white on top of the cube - is that micos or maybe dried salts? If that is salts, I would be curious as to what you think caused that? If fungi - carry on!

My first three did the same thing. Not quite to that extent. I put a ml or two of GH RapidStart in RO I soaked them in.

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

Looks good, I'm sure it will be fine.

The white on top of the cube - is that micos or maybe dried salts? If that is salts, I would be curious as to what you think caused that? If fungi - carry on!

I was not too concerned about it, assumed it was dried salts caused by the top of the rapid rooter drying out a bit. Just a guess but never thought it might be some form of fungi and I never bought a microscope yet.

 

[GrumpAzz]

I was not too concerned about it, assumed it was dried salts caused by the top of the rapid rooter drying out a bit. Just a guess but never thought it might be some form of fungi and I never bought a microscope yet.

What did you soak them in?

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

What did you soak them in?

Just plain RO water. But I have an airstone in the bottom of the bucket, water line an inch below and that keeps everything pretty moist. There are 300 ppm of calmag and nutes in the water.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Just plain RO water. But I have an airstone in the bottom of the bucket, water line an inch below and that keeps everything pretty moist. There are 300 ppm of calmag and nutes in the water.

I agree on the dried salts. When I saw it, I was more curious than concerned.

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

Not a lot to report on this grow other than things are progressing nicely. Started the res out at 300 ppm but once I had touch down with roots in the water, that pH started to dive. Brought the ppms down gradually through dilution of the res, finally stabilized at 206 ppm and pH has been stable finally. Will be monitoring the water to see when she starts to change to a more robust growth stage and needing more nutes.

She is a short and squat strain for sure, going to be a fun one and thinking I won't have to worry too much about stretch with this one.

 

[smoke]

Started the res out at 300 ppm but once I had touch down with roots in the water, that pH started to dive. Brought the ppms down gradually through dilution of the res, finally stabilized at 206 ppm and pH has been stable finally.

Interesting when you lower the ppms by 100 ppm it stabilizes the PH.

At 206 have you noticed the ppm falling (eating) ?

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

At 206 have you noticed the ppm falling (eating) ?

Only been at 206 since last night and so far, no, the ppm is remaining static, she is drinking albeit slowly because she is so small. So far today, ppms remained constant but pH started to drop a bit again so diluted with one more gallon of plain RO got it down to 197 and it's pretty steady there.

I noticed the further out the ppm was on the high side, the quicker and more abrupt the pH changes were. Once I started getting close to where she wanted to be, things mellowed out a lot and now just doing fine adjustments to get in that sweet spot.

Interesting when you lower the ppms by 100 ppm it stabilizes the PH.

This is very interesting indeed. There is a 3 way going on here between ppm, pH and the plant itself. Once I studied that EC/PH Imbalance chart and started applying it, I started to see how they all interact with each other and my job is to find that sweet spot and then adapt as the needs of the plants change both in the early stages and in the late. I've noticed ppm changes as small as 30 will get you in and out of that sweet spot and so I make gradual moves in the direction I want to go based on the chart ad what the water is telling me.

 

[smoke]

Only been at 206 since last night and so far, no, the ppm is remaining static, she is drinking albeit slowly because she is so small. So far today, ppms remained constant but pH started to drop a bit again so diluted with one more gallon of plain RO got it down to 197 and it's pretty steady there.

I noticed the further out the ppm was on the high side, the quicker and more abrupt the pH changes were. Once I started getting close to where she wanted to be, things mellowed out a lot and now just doing fine adjustments to get in that sweet spot.

This is very interesting indeed. There is a 3 way going on here between ppm, pH and the plant itself. Once I studied that EC/PH Imbalance chart and started applying it, I started to see how they all interact with each other and my job is to find that sweet spot and then adapt as the needs of the plants change both in the early stages and in the late. I've noticed ppm changes as small as 30 will get you in and out of that sweet spot and so I make gradual moves in the direction I want to go based on the chart ad what the water is telling me.

So many different ways to grow and feed this plant. Love it

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

Only been at 206 since last night and so far, no, the ppm is remaining static, she is drinking albeit slowly because she is so small. So far today, ppms remained constant but pH started to drop a bit again so diluted with one more gallon of plain RO got it down to 197 and it's pretty steady there.

That small adjustment down with the ppm was all this res needed to stabilize with the pH. Got up this morning and everything is rock solid where I left it when I went to bed last night. As she starts to need more nutirents, she's gonna tell me through the water long before I see anything going on in the leaves is my theory.

Hell yea.

 

[GrumpAzz]

That small adjustment down with the ppm was all this res needed to stabilize with the pH. Got up this morning and everything is rock solid where I left it when I went to bed last night. As she starts to need more nutirents, she's gonna tell me through the water long before I see anything going on in the leaves is my theory.

Hell yea.

What will be your cue? Rise in pH and/or a drop in ppms?

 

[GrumpAzz]

And when you're diluting the lower res, are you also diluting the top-off?

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

What will be your cue? Rise in pH and/or a drop in ppms?

Any change in ppm or pH is my cue. I want the plant drinking water, ppm and pH to remain static, that is the perfect scenario.

If you have the EC/PPM Imbalance chart, print it out and pin it to the wall and study it. The right hand side is your rising EC, the left hand side is the dropping EC. Center/Center or Center/Right is where you want to be.

First, look at the EC(PPM) in the water. What is it doing? If it's rising, look to the right side of the chart. Then look at your water PH. What is it doing? Rising, falling, static? Then look at the appropriate part of the chart and that will tell you what to do. When it says change the res, I do not do that if I just changed it and am getting it stable. Ideally, I want one res change at flip and no more unless there are problems and I need a reset. So if it says change res and lower EC, I just lower the EC, write it down, and then observe....repeat as necessary to get the pH stable.

And when you're diluting the lower res, are you also diluting the top-off?

Once I have a stable res and I know what EC the plant wants, I mimmick the res for top offs, both for pH and ppm, at the proper ratios of course, and dump that in. For example, if my res is sitting at 5.9 and 335 ppm, I mix the top off in the proper ratios to get as close to 5.9 and 335 as possible, then add that to the res. The exception to that is if I have a diving pH and it gets to around 5.5, I do not pH my 7.0 water but just add the nutrients. That bump in pH helps bring that back in line in the res most of the time and once in a while I have to use a bit of PH UP or Agsil to get where I want to be. I try to use as little pH adjusters as possible, especially in flower.

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

The Mello Fellow Grow is chugging along, thinking this is a heavy Indica stain, short and squat.

Gave her a haircut today and some LST. This plant was topped at the 5th node and was super bushy. Got that all cleaned out and a bunch of fans out of the way, and then tied her down spread eagle.

Seems very slow in veg so far but everything is looking good so far.

Before-



After-

 

[moe.red]

Looking good bro.

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

I've been wanting to flip this gal but still waiting to pull that trigger, just seems super slow. I looked back and I am about 9 weeks since sprout of seed, been a bit frustrating but not sure it's anything I am doing and probably just genetics. At any rate, she looks healthy, the res has been super stable and chugging along at 255 ppm. I might change out this res for bloom nutrients before I leave for work this week, and then flip when I get home on Monday. I want to fill the tent and so if I need to go another week or so longer than Monday, I will do that. Not worried about stretch on this plant at all.

 

[smoke]

frustrating but not sure it's anything I am doing

Genetics, you know what you're doing.

Edit; 255 ppms, impressive