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Grump's Mother-plant Grow 🌿

GrumpAzz said:
Stem rubbed the Indigo Sapphire this morning... phew that's gonna be a stinky one. Surprisingly it smells very similar to the Kitchen Sinks that are flowering now.

@doublej did you plant any of these? I think it's gonna be a raunchy strain.
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Nah , I have not...I've got a full house for another few weeks.

I'm liking the reports tho. It's on my list for this next go
 
doublej said:
I'm liking the reports tho. It's on my list for this next go
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Pungent and hard to describe but it's got a hint of dirty dishrag to it. Sharp. Stingsss the nostrils 🤣

Observer said:
Really liking this ebb & flow hydro system, kinda wanna do something like it.
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I'm having a lot of fun with it. Hopefully it'll also root clones no problem.

Observer said:
I'll run multiple, different grow systems/styles when I get back up
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This one's easy. Pretty hands-off, easy to set up and relatively cheap. The fittings cost the most but, including the tent, I spent less than $200 to build it. I guess a bit more than that if you wanna count the light.
 
GrumpAzz said:
Pungent and hard to describe but it's got a hint of dirty dishrag to it. Sharp. Stingsss the nostrils 🤣


I'm having a lot of fun with it. Hopefully it'll also root clones no problem.


This one's easy. Pretty hands-off, easy to set up and relatively cheap. The fittings cost the most but, including the tent, I spent less than $200 to build it. I guess a bit more than that if you wanna count the light.
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I forget what the cross is...
 
GrumpAzz said:
Pungent and hard to describe but it's got a hint of dirty dishrag to it. Sharp. Stingsss the nostrils 🤣


I'm having a lot of fun with it. Hopefully it'll also root clones no problem.


This one's easy. Pretty hands-off, easy to set up and relatively cheap. The fittings cost the most but, including the tent, I spent less than $200 to build it. I guess a bit more than that if you wanna count the light.
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You should have no issues cloning in that as long as there's no contamination and %rh env can keep water in the plants till they spit their own roots in a few days.

or I guess, in theory too, if there touching the water constantly the hydrostatic pressure will/should move water up? Not 100% on that info
 
doublej said:
I forget what the cross is...
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Imperium X x Violet Fog.
By Anesia Seeds I'm pretty sure.

Observer said:
You should have no issues cloning in that as long as there's no contamination and %rh env can keep water in the plants till they spit their own roots in a few days.

or I guess, in theory too, if there touching the water constantly the hydrostatic pressure will/should move water up? Not 100% on that info
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Well fingers crossed. I've got 18 cuttings total, so I should get at least 4 viable plants of the deal.

I tried something new in the dome, also. I put them all in neoprene collars and set them on a piece of 1-inch PVC. Nothing but Rapid Start in the water. We'll see how that goes.

If I have zero clones make it... i'll just throw my 4 remaining moms into the other tent when it's freed up. I'll have plants ready regardless.
 
3 out of the 4 Indigo Sapphires have rooted. 6 days. Hell yeah!
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The 4th isn't looking so hot... I'm thinking it wasn't pushed down into the collar far enough. It looks pretty sad but I'm hoping it bounces back.
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Roots in 6 days is WAY better than the 21 it took me last time. Rooted just sitting in the same grow nutes as their mama.
 
GrumpAzz said:
3 out of the 4 Indigo Sapphires have rooted. 6 days. Hell yeah!
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The 4th isn't looking so hot... I'm thinking it wasn't pushed down into the collar far enough. It looks pretty sad but I'm hoping it bounces back.
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Roots in 6 days is WAY better than the 21 it took me last time. Rooted just sitting in the same grow nutes as their mama.
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Looks like it’s not getting any water. Nice roots bud, six days is amazing for your setup. 👊
 
GrumpAzz said:
3 out of the 4 Indigo Sapphires have rooted. 6 days. Hell yeah!
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The 4th isn't looking so hot... I'm thinking it wasn't pushed down into the collar far enough. It looks pretty sad but I'm hoping it bounces back.
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Roots in 6 days is WAY better than the 21 it took me last time. Rooted just sitting in the same grow nutes as their mama.
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Hell yeah, I didn't think it would take long in there.
 
I'm confused on this part

Seriously considering this for a ebb&flow Recirculating system to the run in the background of my other systems



Edit: figured it out? The back side returns the water back to the res?

The front side pumps water up
 

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Observer said:
I'm confused on this part

Edit: figured it out? The back side returns the water back to the res?

The front side pumps water up
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Back side is the supply and the front side is the return. I 90'd into the back side to restrict flow a bit and the front side has the big ball valve. I can open/close it to fine tune the water level.
 
GrumpAzz said:
Back side is the supply and the front side is the return. I 90'd into the back side to restrict flow a bit and the front side has the big ball valve. I can open/close it to fine tune the water level.
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Ohh ok thanks

What kind of pump?

Nice touch controlling the water level
 
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Danner are good pumps that can be run well in line not in the res.
When run in water it is known to raise water temps up to 4 degrees above room temp.
This is alleviated somewhat when run inline out of the water where it can air cool.
 
steamroller said:
Danner are good pumps that can be run well in line not in the res.
When run in water it is known to raise water temps up to 4 degrees above room temp.
This is alleviated somewhat when run inline out of the water where it can air cool.
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Where's the graph for scale/ volume of water for a pumps heat to be negligible in a given volume of water.
 
doublej said:
What's the light on in there bud?
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Just 10%. I'm sure you could tighten her up if you you crank up the light.

doublej said:
Pretty nice Christmas tree there, pretty symmetrical!!
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Ha yeah. She's definitely the star of the show. Her offspring are going into the big tent any day now.

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This little setup has been fun, but I'm debating on scrapping it so I can dry in this tent. The Indigo clones are ready for the big show.

There's a couple changes I'll make, mostly concerning light leakage. The supply tubing needs to be black and there's definitely penetration through the pvc. Might spray paint the whole thing...

The Indigo plant thrived, for sure. The Blue Cheese wasn't a big fan of the nute mix and the other two were borderline runts. Perfect little test run and I could probably pop some beans for the next batch any day now. I'll just do 4 strains this time, leaving the the other 4 sites open for clones.

This has been a lot of fun so thanks, everyone, for sharing the experience. I'll keep this thread going, thankfully.
 
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GrumpAzz said:
Just 10%. I'm sure you could tighten her up if you you crank up the light.


Ha yeah. She's definitely the star of the show. Her offspring are going into the big tent any day now.

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This little setup has been fun, but I'm debating on scrapping it so I can dry in this tent. The Indigo clones are ready for the big show.

There's a couple changes I'll make, mostly concerning light leakage. The supply tubing needs to be black and there's definitely penetration through the pvc. Might spray paint the whole thing...

The Indigo plant thrived, for sure. The Blue Cheese wasn't a big fan of the nute mix and the other two were borderline runts. Perfect little test run and I could probably pop some beans for the next batch any day now. I'll just do 4 strains this time, leaving the the other 4 sites open for clones.

This has been a lot of fun so thanks, everyone, for sharing the experience. I'll keep this thread going, thankfully.
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Right on...but I meant what kind of light? Looks like it's doing a good job
 
GrumpAzz said:
Just 10%. I'm sure you could tighten her up if you you crank up the light.


Ha yeah. She's definitely the star of the show. Her offspring are going into the big tent any day now.

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This little setup has been fun, but I'm debating on scrapping it so I can dry in this tent. The Indigo clones are ready for the big show.

There's a couple changes I'll make, mostly concerning light leakage. The supply tubing needs to be black and there's definitely penetration through the pvc. Might spray paint the whole thing...

The Indigo plant thrived, for sure. The Blue Cheese wasn't a big fan of the nute mix and the other two were borderline runts. Perfect little test run and I could probably pop some beans for the next batch any day now. I'll just do 4 strains this time, leaving the the other 4 sites open for clones.

This has been a lot of fun so thanks, everyone, for sharing the experience. I'll keep this thread going, thankfully.
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Would you use ABS if you were to do it again? Surprised you think you had light leeks through the PVC.
 
Zen_seeker said:
Would you use ABS if you were to do it again? Surprised you think you had light leeks through the PVC.
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I would spray-paint it 🤣

White PVC doesn't block all light and I can see some algae growth looking in through the plant-sites.

Some of the algae on the roots is from the inlet hose. It's accumulating there pretty heavily and there's likely been some bits break off and flow through the system, catching on roots and stuff.
 
GrumpAzz said:
I would spray-paint it 🤣

White PVC doesn't block all light and I can see some algae growth looking in through the plant-sites.

Some of the algae on the roots is from the inlet hose. It's accumulating there pretty heavily and there's likely been some bits break off and flow through the system, catching on roots and stuff.
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I just thought it strange as you always see these setups in white PVC and not black ABS. All the ones they sell at grow stores or hardware stores in kits are white too.

ABS is usually for waste water but I’ve wondered if it would be as good to use?
 
GrumpAzz said:
Just 10%. I'm sure you could tighten her up if you you crank up the light.


Ha yeah. She's definitely the star of the show. Her offspring are going into the big tent any day now.

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This little setup has been fun, but I'm debating on scrapping it so I can dry in this tent. The Indigo clones are ready for the big show.

There's a couple changes I'll make, mostly concerning light leakage. The supply tubing needs to be black and there's definitely penetration through the pvc. Might spray paint the whole thing...

The Indigo plant thrived, for sure. The Blue Cheese wasn't a big fan of the nute mix and the other two were borderline runts. Perfect little test run and I could probably pop some beans for the next batch any day now. I'll just do 4 strains this time, leaving the the other 4 sites open for clones.

This has been a lot of fun so thanks, everyone, for sharing the experience. I'll keep this thread going, thankfully.
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Been a blast watching you with this project Grump!
IDK if you've considered it or not, but those systems can do incredible things flowering clones. No veg, just straight from clone to flower with yoyo or net support. That thing could be a weed machine with a fat haul every 65 days or so.

To a certain extent, algae growth has some benefit in hydro burning off excess nitrates that could be too much for your plants preventing burn but it's also a supply of it's own nutes and growth hormones. Those growth hormones help in making baddass clones off the mamas. Like it's own, naturally sourced cloning gel.
A thin, healthy looking bright green film is welcome but if it becomes dark or too thick to be taking too much oxygen then it's an issue.
Blue will prevent algae since it won't grow on blue surfaces. Painting it blue or wrapping in blue tape should do the trick to minimize growth
 
Bandit420 said:
Been a blast watching you with this project Grump!
IDK if you've considered it or not, but those systems can do incredible things flowering clones. No veg, just straight from clone to flower with yoyo or net support. That thing could be a weed machine with a fat haul every 65 days or so.
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Yeah I almost expect to never run Veg nutes in the big tent again. These Indigo clones have a nice and healthy root system going. They'd do well to jump straight to flower from the little tent.

I've got everything drying in the big tent for now. Should only take a few days. Wet trimmed and it was airy as hell.
 
i knew that flowing water would be a pretty good rooting teq in theory, & estimated a week~ for roots to develop, glad its worked great for you in reality.

great system, good job.

i want to copy it for a "passive" system in the background of whatever else im doing.
 
GrumpAzz said:
These were cloned 26 days ago and are heading into the big boy tent today
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These were cloned 10 days ago and seem to be doing ok... I need to do better monitoring their pH
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Cold temps have really slowed down my clones. One is doing fine, GM, but the rest have yet to show roots. Still a strong green but I’ve had that before only to find it was still a stick. 🤣

Looking great man, you got it going on now. 👊
 
New addition to the mom tent.
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No roots on the Indigo clone so I popped a bean. It's been a day over 2 weeks so my impatience is gonna write it up as a dud. 7/8 successful clones so far in the mother-dro system.

Carbon Crusher was labled "Legendary Unkown Strain" on his website. G$ says it's PLGC X Zero Gravity. Here's to hoping it makes it through the Mother-dro Thunderdome.
 
Carbon Crusher has yet to sprout. I didn't throw a heatmat under the germ dome at first so it could still make it...

A few days after no signs of life, I dropped it's cousin down next to it. Say hello to the newest contender in the Mother-drone Thunderdome... Glue Crush
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GG#4 X Carbon Crusher
 
Well after nearly a month... we've got a root on my Indigo Sapphire clone. Maybe won't lose these genetics after all.
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All of these clones were cut the same day. The bigger three rooted in a week but the Indigo girl took her sweet ass time.
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GrumpAzz said:
Well after nearly a month... we've got a root on my Indigo Sapphire clone. Maybe won't lose these genetics after all.
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All of these clones were cut the same day. The bigger three rooted in a week but the Indigo girl took her sweet ass time.
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It’s been a slow grow here too. I got worried and took extras on flower as backups. The backups just started showing roots this weekend, but the originals are doing good now. Even with the heat mat it’s taking a lot longer than normal with a few.

Love the way your tube cloner looks/works. 👊
 
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