I hope it's not plagiarism to copy and paste what I already wrote, on another website I can't access any more. Boohoo.
To read what led up to this thread, you can still read what I wrote before I lost my access. LOL! HERE!
Mar 1, 2023
Long ago, in the land of windmills and tulips, the owner of AG Seeds (Todd) and I met. We were both refugees from the "war on drugs" being waged here in the US. Back in those days, 1994, I had the good fortune of being able to do a pheno hunt from some 115+ NL5 x Haze seeds. Most of the seeds, 100 of them, were gifted to me from Nevel with the stipulation that he could take cuttings from any pheno that was special. I also purchased a pac of 15 NL5 x Haze seeds right over the counter at Sensi Seed and that's enough info about that for now. The flower from that grow was already 'sold' to Arjan, owner of The GreenHouse Coffeeshop. I had been growing "Orange Bud" for Arjan for about a year at that point. A pheno from that grow was indeed special and quicky became a favorite of both myself and Todd. So between the 4 of us, Arjan Roskam, Nevil Schoenmakers, Todd and I, that pheno won a 1996 High Times Cannabus Cup for The GreenHouse Coffeeshop.
Fast forward about 30 years. Todd and I were chatting on the phone and he mentioned he had crossed some Northern Lights #2 with Haze and ask if I'd like to see how close he had come to that cup winning taste that we had loved so much, back when! "Why of course I'll grow out some of your seeds", I said. A few days later.... woohoo! So Todd, this one's for you brother!!!
...and for those reading this who don't know, this will be a journal of my first, complete hydro grow. I was and still am an 'earth' farmer.
If you want to laugh at rookie, green horn mistakes learning how to do everything wrong, from pH ping pong to starving my "training tomato" nearly to death, here is the link to that thread. A special shout out to my wonderful, patient, knowledgable and helpful teachers and contributers, @SweetLeafGrow , @steamroller , @CannaGranny , @Moe.Red , @Aqua Man , @Anthem just to name a few!!!
The plan is, (MURPHY, GO AWAY!!!,) to have 2, 4x4 tents growing out these babies. One, the tall tent, will be RDWC hydro and I'll be using Jack's 321 formula and feed schedule along with many tips and loads of guidance from my teachers. Depending on the M to F ratio I get when I can sex them, I'll devide them into hydro and supersoil evenly. No, this isn't any sort of contest between earth and hydro. The only compitition will be between me and myself trying to have a successful 1st hydro grow. The supersoil (just add water system, JAWS for short) is what I know best and will be my back-up, just in case I do something catastrophicly stupid.
My legal limit here in Colorado is 12 plants, 6 in bloom, so with that in mind.......
The tents are all setup, the daytime temps are getting warm enough, so last night it was time to wet some 12 seeds.
FAST FORWARD TO May, 12th, today was transplant day.
I took 4 cutting from the female in soil, "Mother Earth" and the other 3 cuttings about 2 weeks later from the 2nd female I got from those seeds. She's in my first RDWC, "Water Weed".
I have several questions about the 2 phenos and what differances I see in their mothers. Are those differances from genetics or enviroment? One sure way to tell is to do another grow journal of both pheno's in the same growing medium and enviroment. So welcome to Haze x NL#2 (v2.0).
In the pictures below, the 4 large plants are all from my 'Mother Earth' pheno. The 3 small ones are from 'Water Weed'. I hope you enjoy following along for the ride. It's always fun, interesting and I always seem to learn something new, I just wish it was always something good, LOL.
Todd suggested I grow one in Lush. He was telling me all about how great the stuff is. I couldn't burst his bubble by telling him I already knew how great the soil is, but I'm happy to do a(nother) side by side with 3 differant soils
. The L is the Lush, the B is The Bomb and the R is my first try at recycling some of my Bomb soil. Those are in the 5 gal fabric pots.
Oh yes, almost forgot to mention that the 2 plants in Bomb are tripods. They grow leaves from the crown in sets of 3, so I don't want to top those 2 , but we'll see.
Mother Earth on the left, Water Weed on the right. Day 28ish in 12/12
and the children....
To read what led up to this thread, you can still read what I wrote before I lost my access. LOL! HERE!
Mar 1, 2023
Long ago, in the land of windmills and tulips, the owner of AG Seeds (Todd) and I met. We were both refugees from the "war on drugs" being waged here in the US. Back in those days, 1994, I had the good fortune of being able to do a pheno hunt from some 115+ NL5 x Haze seeds. Most of the seeds, 100 of them, were gifted to me from Nevel with the stipulation that he could take cuttings from any pheno that was special. I also purchased a pac of 15 NL5 x Haze seeds right over the counter at Sensi Seed and that's enough info about that for now. The flower from that grow was already 'sold' to Arjan, owner of The GreenHouse Coffeeshop. I had been growing "Orange Bud" for Arjan for about a year at that point. A pheno from that grow was indeed special and quicky became a favorite of both myself and Todd. So between the 4 of us, Arjan Roskam, Nevil Schoenmakers, Todd and I, that pheno won a 1996 High Times Cannabus Cup for The GreenHouse Coffeeshop.
Fast forward about 30 years. Todd and I were chatting on the phone and he mentioned he had crossed some Northern Lights #2 with Haze and ask if I'd like to see how close he had come to that cup winning taste that we had loved so much, back when! "Why of course I'll grow out some of your seeds", I said. A few days later.... woohoo! So Todd, this one's for you brother!!!
...and for those reading this who don't know, this will be a journal of my first, complete hydro grow. I was and still am an 'earth' farmer.
If you want to laugh at rookie, green horn mistakes learning how to do everything wrong, from pH ping pong to starving my "training tomato" nearly to death, here is the link to that thread. A special shout out to my wonderful, patient, knowledgable and helpful teachers and contributers, @SweetLeafGrow , @steamroller , @CannaGranny , @Moe.Red , @Aqua Man , @Anthem just to name a few!!!The plan is, (MURPHY, GO AWAY!!!,) to have 2, 4x4 tents growing out these babies. One, the tall tent, will be RDWC hydro and I'll be using Jack's 321 formula and feed schedule along with many tips and loads of guidance from my teachers. Depending on the M to F ratio I get when I can sex them, I'll devide them into hydro and supersoil evenly. No, this isn't any sort of contest between earth and hydro. The only compitition will be between me and myself trying to have a successful 1st hydro grow. The supersoil (just add water system, JAWS for short) is what I know best and will be my back-up, just in case I do something catastrophicly stupid.
My legal limit here in Colorado is 12 plants, 6 in bloom, so with that in mind.......
The tents are all setup, the daytime temps are getting warm enough, so last night it was time to wet some 12 seeds.
FAST FORWARD TO May, 12th, today was transplant day.
I took 4 cutting from the female in soil, "Mother Earth" and the other 3 cuttings about 2 weeks later from the 2nd female I got from those seeds. She's in my first RDWC, "Water Weed".
I have several questions about the 2 phenos and what differances I see in their mothers. Are those differances from genetics or enviroment? One sure way to tell is to do another grow journal of both pheno's in the same growing medium and enviroment. So welcome to Haze x NL#2 (v2.0).
In the pictures below, the 4 large plants are all from my 'Mother Earth' pheno. The 3 small ones are from 'Water Weed'. I hope you enjoy following along for the ride. It's always fun, interesting and I always seem to learn something new, I just wish it was always something good, LOL.
Todd suggested I grow one in Lush. He was telling me all about how great the stuff is. I couldn't burst his bubble by telling him I already knew how great the soil is, but I'm happy to do a(nother) side by side with 3 differant soils
. The L is the Lush, the B is The Bomb and the R is my first try at recycling some of my Bomb soil. Those are in the 5 gal fabric pots.Oh yes, almost forgot to mention that the 2 plants in Bomb are tripods. They grow leaves from the crown in sets of 3, so I don't want to top those 2 , but we'll see.
Mother Earth on the left, Water Weed on the right. Day 28ish in 12/12
and the children....
might insist on trellising! You can call it most anything you like, but just not SCROG'ing. 
