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SSHZ does Ethos "Zsweet Inzanity".........again

SSHZ said:
Not sure i'm doing these, just leaning this way.....,... i need to study my seed stash. i have over 5 weeks before deciding.

I see Scott's Miracle Grow bought out Bontanicare products, i may need to switch to something new. I've use Canna before with great success, the Blue Planet CalMag I use is great also, i will look into these guys too.

www.blueplanetnutrients.com
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Have you ever run Dyna-Gro nutes? One of the places I worked at the MG was friends with someone over there so they ran most of their line. Girls seemed to really like it.
 
Funny Dyno-Grow story...............

In the 80's when i started growing big time, there wasn't that much on the market available in fertilizer for marijuana.....Dyna-Grow was one of those that was though, i found them in High Times. It was powdered back then, still may be, I don't know. I had rented a decent sized space in an industrial park, partitioned it off, and was growing hydroponically mostly but some rock wool slabs too. Anyway i mentioned previously in this thread i had a 300 cup California made hydro system, it was in either 4 or 6 inch pvc, holes cut on the top and cups with rock wool were inserted into the holes. The system would fill and drain, fill and drain, as the roots grew out the bottom of the cups and into the system.

Anyway, I didn't know much, other than how to from the 7-8 books I read- there was no one to ask back then. Everything in the system kept yellowing, I couldn't keep them green. Thinking it was a fertilizer issue, I just kept feeding them more and more Dyno-Grow. Any guess what the issue was yet???


I didn't know anything about a chiller back then. The water would circulate, it warmed up running thru the pumps every couple of hours. Over time, it caused issues, it was just too damn hot after days and days of running. I didn't know better.

Still, it was the strongest pot i ever produced. Seeds straight from Nevil in Amsterdam. Mainly Northern Lights stuff, #2, #5, and some other things. Pot was wayyyyy over salted from the ferts, but i was getting top dollar back then with no complaints. People swore i was doing the buds with some chemicals of some sort. So yes, I've heard of Dyno-Grow.
 
Yup! If you mastered hydro and had all your genetics in order it was easy to unload your entire crop. Gromie had a greenhouse in San Diego doing light dep before it was a thing. Not huge, like a 20 x 100. Like the size of a standard hoop house. Local shot caller would come into his grow at week 8 to look over the crop and leave a few racks to reserve it all. Dry weight it all and settle out. Easy Peasy.
 
SSHZ said:
iFunny Dyno-Grow story...............

In the 80's when i started growing big time, there wasn't that much on the market available in fertilizer for marijuana.....Dyna-Grow was one of those that was though, i found them in High Times. It was powdered back then, still may be, I don't know. I had rented a decent sized space in an industrial park, partitioned it off, and was growing hydroponically mostly but some rock wool slabs too. Anyway i mentioned previously in this thread i had a 300 cup California made hydro system, it was in either 4 or 6 inch pvc, holes cut on the top and cups with rock wool were inserted into the holes. The system would fill and drain, fill and drain, as the roots grew out the bottom of the cups and into the system.

Anyway, I didn't know much, other than how to from the 7-8 books I read- there was no one to ask back then. Everything in the system kept yellowing, I couldn't keep them green. Thinking it was a fertilizer issue, I just kept feeding them more and more Dyno-Grow. Any guess what the issue was yet???


I didn't know anything about a chiller back then. The water would circulate, it warmed up running thru the pumps every couple of hours. Over time, it caused issues, it was just too damn hot after days and days of running. I didn't know better.

Still, it was the strongest pot i ever produced. Seeds straight from Nevil in Amsterdam. Mainly Northern Lights stuff, #2, #5, and some other things. Pot was wayyyyy over salted from the ferts, but i was getting top dollar back then with no complaints. People swore i was doing the buds with some chemicals of some sort. So yes, I've heard ofDyno-Grow.ofDyno-Grow.
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I used Dynagro in veg , Dyna bloom in flower in DWC when i 1st started. Its a good product and easy to use. I still use Protekt.
 
There he is, I knew you'd show up eventually. You'll like it here if you give it a chance. No bullshit here, much better place than where you've been hanging. The growers experience here blows everywhere else out of the water.........
 
SSHZ said:
There he is, I knew you'd show up eventually. You'll like it here if you give it a chance. No bullshit here, much better place than where you've been hanging. The growers experience here blows everywhere else out of the water.........
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SSHZ I believe you mentioned that plant growing system before. I have a feeling I know the guy that made it for you.
 
johnnyrockets said:
I used Dynagro in veg , Dyna bloom in flower in DWC when i 1st started. Its a good product and easy to use. I still use Protekt.
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I've used ProTekt almost exclusively but I ran out and there was a good deal on some Armor Si...
 
Anthem275 said:
SSHZ I believe you mentioned that plant growing system before. I have a feeling I know the guy that made it for you.
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Yes, we discussed this before.............. the system had a solinoid problem, these turned the pumps on and off, and they burned out frequently. Although I was there daily for the entire grow, many times I would leave in the evening only to return in the morning with the system dry because a solinoid burned out overnight. I never lost a crop, but I got close a couple of time. This experience convinced me to jump off of hydroponics and onto Promix. It's more forgiving..............

Further, the cups that held the plants were small, about 6 inches tall and only held a small amount of rockwool. Helpers and I discussed drilling larger holes in the PVC pipe, and growing with larger cups that held more rockwool (and thus, more water) but the solinoid issue was never resolved with the manufacturer and after a number of grows, that system was knocked down and put into storage, never to be used again.
 
Well, it looks like I need to rip out the room one last time and stake/tie up everything for the last time. There's multiple grow patterns with this strain, probably caused by my topping/fimming and I know when these bulk up, the room will become un-manageable. Do it now or do it later- now will be a lot easier, that I know. The mid-atlantic area is about to get a weeks worth of rain, storms and showers starting Saturday, and it looks like Saturday will be the perfect day to get it done.

And this strain does not put out the strongest branches- at least not like some of the things I've recently done. I'm not going to remove many leaves, at least I'm not planning on it. Just adding some additional support so things don't fall into each other as they gain weight. Before and after pic's, as always.........
 
Lol, you can always tell it's my pic as i do much of my work on a large teak table in the basement in front of my tv. image.jpg
 
SSHZ said:
Listened to the Rasta Jeff podcast today on Irie's "Lemon Jeffrey"......... I own it so I'll have to consider this one next time. Not lot of reviews out there on this one but it sure sells the hell out quickly each time he makes it, and it's his name sake as he named it after himself. He spoke in length about it growing tall and how to control it including topping and flowering early. One of his better podcasts, as he didn't ramble on duplicating himself over and over.
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SSHZ~Can you share link here?
I've searched a lot but still found nothing.
Thx...
 
Jeff probably has 100+, maybe 200+ podcasts on everything about growing and his strains. Here's a start:

Grow From Your Heart | IRIE GENETICS

www.iriegenetics.com www.iriegenetics.com

Ive listened to many of them. He does like to repeat himself and it can drag on a bit, but his podcast on defoliation has defined much of my grow style today. His podcast on Orange Gasm is another classic. Click around, on the top of the page, is a podcast link or click the main page where it says Podcast.

Somewhere there is a master list of all his podcast titles, you just have to click thru everything until you find it.
 
Most of the links take you to Patron, where there is a membership fee. I have never joined or paid to listen to any of them. Let me look into it further.
 
OK, they are all available for free on youtube. Here is the link for Lemon Jeffries podcast, but search youtube on the subject or strain you want to listen about. Pot stuff is age restricted, but no problem getting to you with a click.

 
if you remember, early in the grow, i separated the taller plants to one side, the shorter to the other.......I just made an executive decision, i'm only going to do the taller side. These plants definitely need the additional support. I don't think the shorter side will be necessary to touch. They are supported by the plants surrounding themselves.

Im removing a limited amount of leaf material- just some of those larger ones that are blocking below and some stuff to the center to allow more air flow thru the plant.
 
Intersting.......I'm seeing true Durban Poison described as having a licorise smell. I describe my strain, which is heavily influenced by D.P., as smelling like anise liquor. It prompted a google search:

"Anise and licorice have a similar flavor and smell, but they do have differences in taste. Anise tends to be spicy and a little sweet. Licorice, on the other hand, can be bitter, salty, and even sour. They smell similarly because they both have anethole, which is an organic flavoring compound."

It's the sure way you know you have a true Durban Poison, so Ethos passed this test.
 
LOL>..........thats just the way they are sitting when I put them back in there. Not sure what is up with the light green plant in the back right. It may be light bleaching, as its the tallest plant in the room and the LED was damn close for a long time. She seems to be producing, so Im not worrying about it. When I had her out, I check her out and lower on the plant was fine- nice and green. So, most likely, its the bleaching affect.

I may pull the first row of plants out on the other side, and thin them out a bit on Monday. Theres a lot of leaves, a thinning may be necessary. I wont need to stake anything, just a thinning out to expose the buds more.
 
It really depends on the strain...........Most strains stay fairly short under these LED's. This one has a lot of sativa in in, so it tends to grow a bit taller and the branches aren't strong enough to hold the weight on some phenos.
 
It ain’t no fun, especially since it’s my 3rd time this grow and I’m almost 68, so it’s not getting any easier. This strain is a bit more challenging than some of the others, it’s demanding more of my time and effort. At almost 68 now, I’m getting too old for this shit.
 
Could you tell I was a bit down last night......just tired and football was not going well. Lol

This morning I pulled 4 plants out on the other side, not to tie them up but just a thinning as they had a lot of leaves covering up buds. I think Im good to go now, no more playing around other than watering.

Interesting note- After removing a lot of leaves and such, this resin is not a “sticky” resin, it’s more greasy than anything. My thumb and forefinger were black but not sticky at all. I’ll have to go back to my old threads and see if I mentioned that previously.
 
SSHZ said:
Could you tell I was a bit down last night......just tired and football was not going well. Lol

This morning I pulled 4 plants out on the other side, not to tie them up but just a thinning as they had a lot of leaves covering up buds. I think Im good to go now, no more playing around other than watering.

Interesting note- After removing a lot of leaves and such, this resin is not a “sticky” resin, it’s more greasy than anything. My thumb and forefinger were black but not sticky at all. I’ll have to go back to my old threads and see if I mentioned that previously.
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This last run I did the Florida Strawberry cultivar had these weird watery brown pearls that I'd find every so often at the base of the flower. I wish I had taken a pic. At first I thought it might be nute that got on the leaves but I don't wet the leaves. Have you ever run into this?
 
Can't say i have but i think i've seen pic's of what you are talking about.........anyone else?
 
I wish i had paid more attention when i saw the pic......... I really do not have a clue. i will try to find it again.
 
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SSHZ said:
Could you tell I was a bit down last night......just tired and football was not going well. Lol

This morning I pulled 4 plants out on the other side, not to tie them up but just a thinning as they had a lot of leaves covering up buds. I think Im good to go now, no more playing around other than watering.

Interesting note- After removing a lot of leaves and such, this resin is not a “sticky” resin, it’s more greasy than anything. My thumb and forefinger were black but not sticky at all. I’ll have to go back to my old threads and see if I mentioned that previously.
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Yeah you have mentioned this few grows back.can’t remember which one..I rubbed my fingers on one last night and all I could smell was pussy..took me about 10 secs to work it out 🤣
 
How about this pic of the strain in my 2018 grow.......not topped or defoliated. Look at the size of this colas, and the height! Then go above to post #303 and notice the difference between topping and not topping. Both pics were taken at day 38 in flowering. Right before the 2018 pic was taken, i did a post talking about ripping the room apart since everything was leaning- the entire room was tilted. lol This pic was just after the staking.


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Week 6 thru flowering on Saturday........things moving ahead nicely. I'm again seeing some gnats buzzing around so i removed the old sticky traps that were covered with gnats and placed new sticky cards around, while adding some gnat bits to each pot to kill the larva. I don't see these finishing in 4 weeks, probably 5 weeks at a minimum.

One thing i wanted to mention is how the water produced from the dehumidifier comes in handy. i typically am putting 20 gallons into the room every 24-36 hours. That's filling a 5 gallon container with reverse osmosis water each day 4 times. That sucks. The dehumidifier holds almost 2 gallons, which i empty 2+ times a day normally. i pour it right into my water reservoir, which works nicely.

Pics up at 11am with lights on.........
 
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