Grump's Indigo Sapphire Grow 🌱

[Bandit420]

Haha yeah. Wishful thinking...


I played with one a little bit yesterday. Pretty neat. 5 channels of customization that really just boils down to whites and reds. There's a slider for the whites to choose warm or cool, then a slider for the intensity. Same for the reds. Far red or just red, olus intensity. Then there's a slider for overall intensity. Kinda neat.
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I also have a couple far red and UV bars that will likely be implemented.


Would some supplemental UV get the RKs cloaer to CLWs blue output?

I'm thinking about throwing the CLW on blue only until harvest. Could be a week. Could be two or three... You ever finish with all blue?

Very cool!
yes I've ran only blue and so many variations I lost count and track.
Where I'm at with this is the all purpose for every strain finishing spectrum is somewhere around 7000 to 10,000 kelvin in light color temp.
The lower that number the more red the color and the higher it is, the more blue and crisp white it will be.
It's not all UV or all blue etc. It's a blend of colors to get that 7-10K but blue and white is a huge part of it

It's difficult in some ways because there is no meter for kelvins. We have spectrometers that measure color and then we take that color and mix it up trying to find that 7-10K.
Red is a very dominating color in this at almost 2:1 so you need to pretty much double the blue to even match equal to red in just about every light out there. To get more blue usually requires supplements and that's where the blue bars and UV comes in but more often than not, they're severely underpowered to deliver the photons at the density we need. They can light up a poster but don't do shit in horticulture is what that is.
The blue that's in those SS lights is Osram and it just can't be duplicated man. It's just special in those regards. Like you can rebuild a Kia in all sorts of ways but it will never be a Corvette. That's what it's like trying to find another blue comparable to that Osram diode in there

 

[Stoneyluv]

feel free to kick my ass later.... haha

 

[GrumpAzz]

feel free to kick my ass later.... haha

I will only rock a little Rambo duck and the rest will be tossed into the Gulag (toddler bath-toy tote).

 

[GrumpAzz]

First tester nug is through the dry cycle in the Cannatrol

It's just a lower nug that I scoped for the hell of it, 4 days ago. 4 day cure and we're burning this little bitch.

 

[Zen_seeker]

feel free to kick my ass later.... haha

I still don’t get the duck thing. Never seen them up here. I had an 88’ YJ and I was in the bush every weekend for years.

When I went off roading I’d remove the rugs and floor plugs because a lot of the holes were full of water. Rugs just used Velcro to stay in place. After a weekend trip we’d go to a DIY car wash and spray them down. Leave a mound of mud and dirt around the body of the Jeep before driving off nice and clean again.

 

[Zen_seeker]

I will only rock a little Rambo duck and the rest will be tossed into the Gulag (toddler bath-toy tote).

Only thing I ever allowed was a Garfield with suction cups on its paws. Girlfriend got it for the Jeep. It was put into a few funny positions over the years. When my new girlfriend found out who bought it I stuck it in the front grill, like it was hit. Used to get lots of laughs, until someone finally stole it.

 

[GrumpAzz]

I still don’t get the duck thing. Never seen them up here. I had an 88’ YJ and I was in the bush every weekend for years.

It's just a stupid way of saying "nice jeep" that people have taken way to far. It was supposed to be a pay it forward sort of thing.. get a duck give a duck kinda deal. People just started collecting them like some sort of tacky ass badge of honor...

I think it all happened when women became the standard Wrangler owner.

When I went off roading I’d remove the rugs and floor plugs because a lot of the holes were full of water. Rugs just used Velcro to stay in place. After a weekend trip we’d go to a DIY car wash and spray them down. Leave a mound of mud and dirt around the body of the Jeep before driving off nice and clean again.

We took a dooby cruise down the river again today. I keep it out of the water but the sand is a lot of fun to cruise in. There's a lot of vehicles I wouldn't try down here, but this thing doesn't flinch.

 

[Zen_seeker]

It's just a stupid way of saying "nice jeep" that people have taken way to far. It was supposed to be a pay it forward sort of thing.. get a duck give a duck kinda deal. People just started collecting them like some sort of tacky ass badge of honor...

I think it all happened when women became the standard Wrangler owner.


We took a dooby cruise down the river again today. I keep it out of the water but the sand is a lot of fun to cruise in. There's a lot of vehicles I wouldn't try down here, but this thing doesn't flinch.
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Watch out for sand in deep water. It can wash away quickly and leave you hung up. But then that’s what the winch is for.

 

[stonerfirm]

Well I think I'm all stocked up on Heisenbeans...

Dragon Gas
Blue Dubz
Trich Dawg
Lunch Ticket
Carbon Crusher
Cosmos
Berry'a 51
Sweet Rock
Polarberry
Platinum Ice
Glue Crush
Gravitron
Grape Banger
Crushberry Sugar
Boogeyman
Apple Stomper
Doppelgänger

-All 12 packs and nabbed for under 20 bucks a pack. Several of these went for 13 or 14 dollars. Buck a seed is a pretty good deal. Hard to pass up reverse auction seeds and, according to G$, this dude's been on his game recently.

@GoodShit97, am I missing something that's a must have?

I know we all went crazy for a minute on the GPS reverse auctions so, for anyone else interested...

Reverse Auctions - Seedlys

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Yeah, Gu wishes he created the Reverse Auctions. Read the Seedlys article about it. It's a free plugin. Everything cool that Gu ever did, he stole from someone else. He would hire them, try to learn as much from them as possible, and then kick them to the curb. Karma...And now Heisen can work on some real sh*t. Not having to create whatever BS that Gu tells him. I remember he would open accounts all over the forums himself and then pretend to be someone else, saying stuff like "Gu is a marketing genius" and other stupid sh*t. Gu is a has-been and a nerd. Good riddance, GPS!

 

[GrumpAzz]

I've been really busy so I haven't been able to post any updates.

However.. I chopped half the tent a couple days ago and completely stuffed the Cannatrol. I'm sure it's overloaded but I'm gonna remain optimistic.


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I'm usually chopping in a hurry so I didn't do a very good job of documenting the haul...
It was all very easy to trim. Most everything was able to be plucked off and many of the nugs hardly needed a trim. Strong notes of blueberry muffins and stinky cheese

They might've come down a little early, but I had the time before a long stretch of no days off at work. That, and the pH had been diving like a muhfucker every single night and I got tired of dicking with it every morning. I'm doing hydro so I DON'T have to do something every day.

I've still got 2 plants in the tent, so I'll continue to adjust the pH as necessary. I was also able to get a few more colas yo-yo'd and upright


And then there's my other little project.

CannaKraut...
I don't know what I'm doing so, for now, i just have the roots in some water in the fridge. I'll research at work, when I can, and if I screw it up, I still have 2 plants for some backup roots.

 

[OLDCRO]

Your cannatrol isnt over loaded you will be fine.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Your cannatrol isnt over loaded you will be fine.

It's stuffed to the gills, that's for sure.

I've seen plenty of people run them as full as they can get it with good results. I just didn't want to leave any half-cut plants in the tent.

Seeing 75% humidity consistently. Everyone says that will come down, but I've been wafting the door a couple times a day, just in case.

 

[OLDCRO]

It's stuffed to the gills, that's for sure.

I've seen plenty of people run them as full as they can get it with good results. I just didn't want to leave any half-cut plants in the tent.

Seeing 75% humidity consistently. Everyone says that will come down, but I've been wafting the door a couple times a day, just in case.

Are you getting water in your catch pan if so its working. I have had humidity in the cannatrol in the eighties for first day or two it will come down.Do not forget to throw in wet sponge and container 24 hours after starting dry.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Are you getting water in your catch pan if so its working. I have had humidity in the cannatrol in the eighties for first day or two it will come down.Do not forget to throw in wet sponge and container 24 hours after starting dry.

Yep I've been draining it twice a day.

Good to hear about the humidity. My brain says "over 60% and you get mold" so I've been a little weary.

I'll wet the sponge when the humidity decides to stabilize. Thanks Cro

 

[OLDCRO]

I run mine four day dry four day cure . In the dry cycle by day four im down to 57 percent humidity.

 

[steamroller]

I put the sponge in day 2.
Day one no sponge.
Mine is in the shop so I just let it overflow.
2 dumps a day sounds like you are on track.
Nice haul~!

 

[GrumpAzz]

I put the sponge in day 2.
Day one no sponge.
Mine is in the shop so I just let it overflow.
2 dumps a day sounds like you are on track.
Nice haul~!

It's been two full days now and it was at 72% when I got home.

Think the sponge should go in while it's still running high?

I dump twice a day but the tray is probably half full each time. Pretty damn cool knowing all that water came straight outa the plants.

 

[steamroller]

I have never had an issue, and I load it up with wet plants.
I run it pre programmed and follow what I think are the directions.
I put sponge in day 2 without even looking.
Usually all good in 4 days. Then the cure either in jars or on the trays.
In jars I do not burp or have not had to.

 

[Stoneyluv]

i find my DIY to be the same.. i kinda ignore the readings for the first couple days and just trust the process.

no burping here either..

been curious Grump, didn't you buy a lumber moisture meter to try? have you played around with that thing at all?

 

[Zen_seeker]

i find my DIY to be the same.. i kinda ignore the readings for the first couple days and just trust the process.

no burping here either..

been curious Grump, didn't you buy a lumber moisture meter to try? have you played around with that thing at all?

I grabbed one too, but keep forgetting about it. Just tried it on week and a half ago jarred GGB#4.

Was jarred when the smaller branches snapped when lifted.



Good contact on this one with a branch.

Buds very sticky and medium firm.

Finger reads at 17.5% when pressed in.

Now I need to find a known baseline. Wonder if water reads as 100%?

 

[steamroller]

"Dry lumber" reads between 6-14%, with 6-8% being for interior wood work just for reference.

 

[GrumpAzz]

"Dry lumber" reads between 6-14%, with 6-8% being for interior wood work just for reference.

And from what I gather.. 10-12% is around ideal for nugs

I haven't played with mine yet on this harvest. Last one seemed to be about right when I threw it in the grove bags at 12%. They were funky nugs and it was hard to get a good reading though.

I'm also looking forward to storing in the trol. Grove bags in a dry basement won't keep the byds fresh. They dry out in a couple weeks. I suppose I should get me some bovedas.

 

[TomH]

I bought a couple wood moisture meters for testing my grows.

Used it once or twice on weed, but have tested every wall and piece of floor molding in the entire house

 

[GrumpAzz]

Found mold...

That means the whole load is trashed, eh?

13.5 ounces off of the two plants. Damn shame.

 

[steamroller]

Mold on a couple buds or most all?
What were the last readings from the cannatroller?

 

[GrumpAzz]

Mold on a couple buds or most all?
What were the last readings from the cannatroller?

Obvious mold on a couple buds but I didn’t inspect them all. Third tray down before I noticed and then I found anouther on the bottom tray. It's all stuffed in Grove bags for now.

I did factory settings and kept it on the dry cycle for 2 extra days. It never saw below 70%. Then I ran the cure cycle a day long. It finally got below 65% in the last 2 days and was sitting around 62% when I pulled everything.

I wafted the door a couple time a day and even pulled the trays all the way out when I went into cure.

Does bleach take out mold? I emptied the thing so I could chop my remaining plants. Looks like I'll be hand drying one so I don't stuff the thing too full this time.

 

[Stoneyluv]

did they feel "crunchy" when you put them in the bags?

you didn't harvest it all yet?? if not do a peroxide wash on them, that is now and will forever be in my routine of harvest. and twice on anything outdoor!

 

[OLDCRO]

Could those buds already have mold on them before going in to the cannatrol. Just a question

 

[steamroller]

Really sounds like something wasn't working right.
5 days should have had you at 62% before cure.
Not sure if new model runs the same as old.

 

[GrumpAzz]

did they feel "crunchy" when you put them in the bags?

you didn't harvest it all yet?? if not do a peroxide wash on them, that is now and will forever be in my routine of harvest. and twice on anything outdoor!

Nah not crunchy. 10 days in the Cannatrol and then into the bags for storage while I chopped the other plants.

They feel done and smoke great. Wife just said "well should we roll a moldy"

Been smoking samples for a couple days now. No mold on anything we've pulled out yet. Just when I emptied the whole thing.

Could those buds already have mold on them before going in to the cannatrol. Just a question

There's a possibility. I didn't see any signs beforehand, though. I usually have a pretty good eye and mold wigs me out so it has me extra paranoid with the fattest nugs.

I'll look real close when I chop the next two plants tomorrow. I'll probably only put one in the trol this time.

Really sounds like something wasn't working right.
5 days should have had you at 62% before cure.
Not sure if new model runs the same as old.

Man it was stuffed to the max. Like puzzle-pieced in there. I don't know what 13.5 dry equates to wet, but I know it's WAY ovwr their 2.2 pound recommendation.

 

[steamroller]

Man it was stuffed to the max. Like puzzle-pieced in there. I don't know what 13.5 dry equates to wet, but I know it's WAY ovwr their 2.2 pound recommendation.

Yea roughly you may have been 1 lb over the limit.

Be real careful smoking it.
You got enough to chuck whatever is questionable.

 

[Stoneyluv]

ozone or UV it?

 

[steamroller]

ozone or UV it?

I thought I had heard of extracting with alcohol being the only safe recourse, but upon search I found nothing.
Maybe I didn't look properly.

 

[Stoneyluv]

personally i'd just ditch it.. but not everybody has a giant cooler full of weed.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Be real careful smoking it.
You got enough to chuck whatever is questionable.

Yeah. It's all in 4 bags. I'll keep watch and will likely chuck it unfortunately.

personally i'd just ditch it.. but not everybody has a giant cooler full of weed.

Yeah for sure. Hate to get sick being stingy

 

[Observer]

Yeah. It's all in 4 bags. I'll keep watch and will likely chuck it unfortunately.


Yeah for sure. Hate to get sick being stingy

You make extracts or fresh frozen

Or say fuck it and Smoke it

Going off of particle and wave theory science....that shit is everywhere...already anyways.....

Fire destroys most.....I think..

But keyword.....most....

 

[Observer]

Yeah. It's all in 4 bags. I'll keep watch and will likely chuck it unfortunately.


Yeah for sure. Hate to get sick being stingy

I'm sure you have options though...

 

[GrumpAzz]

You make extracts or fresh frozen

Or say fuck it and Smoke it

Going off of particle and wave theory science....that shit is everywhere...already anyways.....

Fire destroys most.....I think..

But keyword.....most....

Half the harvest is suspect...

The other half should end up fine. 1 plant went in the Cannatrol and the other is hanging in the tent the same way I used to dry. The Trol is half a packed as the last attempt so I think we should be golden. The stuff in the tent is what it is with no temp control. It'll be fine.

We've been breaking apart nugs with eagle eyes. If I find a bit of mold, we toss the whole nug and try again. So far I've only found 1 moldy nug that made it into the smoking jar. We'll risk it until this next batch dries. Fuck it.

 

[Stoneyluv]

ehh use a crack lighter.. you'll be fine!!

 

[Observer]

Half the harvest is suspect...

The other half should end up fine. 1 plant went in the Cannatrol and the other is hanging in the tent the same way I used to dry. The Trol is half a packed as the last attempt so I think we should be golden. The stuff in the tent is what it is with no temp control. It'll be fine.

We've been breaking apart nugs with eagle eyes. If I find a bit of mold, we toss the whole nug and try again. So far I've only found 1 moldy nug that made it into the smoking jar. We'll risk it until this next batch dries. Fuck it.

Ok

That's okay

If the individual nug is not compromised then okay, disregarding particle and wave theory.


But if you don't feel comfortable then just trash it or extract it.

Otherwise, smoke that shit, Homie.

Correct the Mistakes Next Time.