Grump's Gassy Cream Cake Grow 🌱

[steamroller]

Wicked nice with the tent man~!

You have a lot of seeds. How are you storing them?

 

[Stoneyluv]

damn that so high up i got dizzy looking at the photo!!!!!!

awesome work... fyi this duct tape is incredible with holding up to moisture. have some stuck outside for over two years now!

 

[GrumpAzz]

Wicked nice with the tent man~!

You have a lot of seeds. How are you storing them?

They're downstairs in a tupperware in a dresser drawer. I've had these for maybe two months.

I want to assume it's the softened water I'm using. I don't have my RO set up yet. All my previous seeds were popped with RO.

 

[GrumpAzz]

I think the tent is set up how I want it. Totes need cleaned and power needs ran... on to the water side of things.
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[Observer]

Still only 3 seeds have popped so far. 2.5 days on the last batch of 4. Hope to see something tomorrow morning. No new news to report there, otherwise.

BIG NEWS on the tent. It's all set up and sealed. I extended the walls to the basement ceiling with bubble foil insulation and taped all the seams and staples with foil tape. Hopefully it holds up to the humidity. Next step will be getting my fans and equipment in place so I can plan out the wiring. Then the buckets and hydro setup and the plumbing.
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I'm pretty proud of this hippy-rigged little setup. Heck yeah!!

Nice man looks good

I think the tent is set up how I want it. Totes need cleaned and power needs ran... on to the water side of things.
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Nice bro.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Welp.. again, I've lost track of days, but I'd normally expect to see more action in the Germ Dome at this point. I'm thinking my softened water has really hampered my germination rates this time around. No other explanation. Either way, we've got 3 sprouts out of 10 planted. That's not bueno. I've germed at damn near 100% in all the runs prior.

I'll keep the dome warmed and watered while I work towards getting my water all plumbed. If one more sprout shows up, I've got a full tent.

All that being said, this thread may die in the days to come. I'll get on the plumbing this weekend, hopefully.

 

[steamroller]

Go to a store and get spring water and distilled and get your PPM straight.
Not something you want to do through the entire grow but until you can get your ro up this is survival advice.

 

[Aqua Man]

Welp.. again, I've lost track of days, but I'd normally expect to see more action in the Germ Dome at this point. I'm thinking my softened water has really hampered my germination rates this time around. No other explanation. Either way, we've got 3 sprouts out of 10 planted. That's not bueno. I've germed at damn near 100% in all the runs prior.

I'll keep the dome warmed and watered while I work towards getting my water all plumbed. If one more sprout shows up, I've got a full tent.

All that being said, this thread may die in the days to come. I'll get on the plumbing this weekend, hopefully.

Sodium is terrible for plants over 20ppm.

Have you heard the term salting the earth.? Its what they used to do in war to make sure the crops wouldn’t grow.

The level of sodium in your water is ABSOLUTELY the problem

 

[GrumpAzz]

Go to a store and get spring water and distilled and get your PPM straight.
Not something you want to do through the entire grow but until you can get your ro up this is survival advice.

We have spring water in the fridge...

Sodium is terrible for plants over 20ppm.

Have you heard the term salting the earth.? Its what they used to do in war to make sure the crops wouldn’t grow.

The level of sodium in your water is ABSOLUTELY the problem

I figured. I got a little overzealous with the move and ttheharvest all happening at the same time and just germed some seeds without thinking. 3 popped so I threw 4 more at it.

I'll continue watering with the water we have in the fridge and see what happens. If I don't have another sprout by Sunday, they'll get the axe.

 

[Stoneyluv]

We have spring water in the fridge...


I figured. I got a little overzealous with the move and ttheharvest all happening at the same time and just germed some seeds without thinking. 3 popped so I threw 4 more at it.

I'll continue watering with the water we have in the fridge and see what happens. If I don't have another sprout by Sunday, they'll get the axe.

can you just take the solar salt out of your softener? will it still function and flow without it?

i have hard water but after talking to people with softeners there is no way in hell i would ever have one! i'll deal with my minerals.

 

[GrumpAzz]

can you just take the solar salt out of your softener? will it still function and flow without it?

i have hard water but after talking to people with softeners there is no way in hell i would ever have one! i'll deal with my minerals.

The wife wouldn't want to get rid of it. I'm with you, though. I like well water. Grew up drinking out of farm spickets and windmills. I also hate the slimey feeling when you shower or wash your hands.

 

[Stoneyluv]

I also hate the slimey feeling when you shower or wash your hands.

this was my absolute #1 reason why i didn't want one, that feeling of still being wet after drying off.

 

[GrumpAzz]

this was my absolute #1 reason why i didn't want one, that feeling of still being wet after drying off.

I've been told more than once that "that's how you know you're actually clean."

 

[Stoneyluv]

I've been told more than once that "that's how you know you're actually clean."

guess i've always been a dirty dawg anyway!!!!

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do you have any idea roughly how much rainfall you have a year? rain collection is super easy and maintenance free. with your basement you have the advantage like i do, you get 1psi for every two foot of elevation. i have almost 7psi and coupled with a high quality drinking hose i can fill up my rez in a few minutes.

and you could still RO the rainwater if you wanted, your membranes would last longer versus tap water.

the only kink i have is i have to plan my water usage a tiny bit in the winter in case the water tote freezes solid, this is rare and an aquarium heater would solve this if you really needed, one keeps my chickens water bin thawed in the winter and they just get rain water from their own coop roof, i went Gilligan style and used a piece of bamboo for the rain gutter!!!!! just for whimsy!!

plus there's that negative carbon footprint pride feeling knowing you used zero energy to provide water to your plants!

 

[GrumpAzz]

guess i've always been a dirty dawg anyway!!!!

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do you have any idea roughly how much rainfall you have a year? rain collection is super easy and maintenance free. with your basement you have the advantage like i do, you get 1psi for every two foot of elevation. i have almost 7psi and coupled with a high quality drinking hose i can fill up my rez in a few minutes.

Looks like we get 27" on average.

and you could still RO the rainwater if you wanted, your membranes would last longer versus tap water.

I got three grows out of my first filters and they were still putting out 0ppm water. That's almost long enough to forget where I bought them

the only kink i have is i have to plan my water usage a tiny bit in the winter in case the water tote freezes solid, this is rare and an aquarium heater would solve this if you really needed, one keeps my chickens water bin thawed in the winter and they just get rain water from their own coop roof, i went Gilligan style and used a piece of bamboo for the rain gutter!!!!! just for whimsy!!

A barrel would freeze solid here for sure. We regularly get a week long bout of negatives.

The bamboo gutter sounds awesome. I love getting creative my dog pens. They've got a nice spot reserved in the garage. Gonna be warm in the winter and cool in the summer.

plus there's that negative carbon footprint pride feeling knowing you used zero energy to provide water to your plants!

While I understand your point here, I have very little impact on the water here in comparison to the endless circles of irrigated corn. I don't just go wasting water but I'm not too worried about a little RO runoff.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Looks like we get 27" on average.

you get enough thats for sure, if you ever wanted to go that route.

got three grows out of my first filters and they were still putting out 0ppm water. That's almost long enough to forget where I bought them

aw yeah thats not even a factor...

A barrel would freeze solid here for sure. We regularly get a week long bout of negatives.

The bamboo gutter sounds awesome. I love getting creative my dog pens. They've got a nice spot reserved in the garage. Gonna be warm in the winter and cool in the summer.

i always thought i should cover it in black for the winter to try that, but i'm lazy and same silver tarp i put on seven years ago is still there... hit the corner of the tarp with the mower!! haha

i did that when we had a dog, i even put a cozy heating blanket with thermostat under her bed to lay on when i was out there working, she would just sprawl put on the cold cement floor instead!!! goofy animals!!!

 

[CannaGranny]

This is extremely odd. I’ve been running his genetics for the past seven years, I always have a fantastic germ rate. I have had same take awhile to pop up, but still.
I think you have the prob pretty well pinpointed.
Are you on well water now? If so how the hell did it get fluoride in it?

 

[GrumpAzz]

you get enough thats for sure, if you ever wanted to go that route.

Nice. I could see it happening eventually. Probably not this winter, but maybe a spring project.

This is extremely odd. I’ve been running his genetics for the past seven years, I always have a fantastic germ rate. I have had same take awhile to pop up, but still.
I think you have the prob pretty well pinpointed.
Are you on well water now? If so how the hell did it get fluoride in it?

Hopefully it's that first one.
And, I don't blame him at all. This was my bad.

 

[CannaGranny]

Nice. I could see it happening eventually. Probably not this winter, but maybe a spring project.


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Hopefully it's that first one.
And, I don't blame him at all. This was my bad.

Oh no, I don’t think you’re blaming anyone. Just trying to figure it out.
I would guess it would be the type of rock in your area, as my well water tests show no fluoride.
I do use well water. I ph it down using apple cider vinegar. My ph fluctuates wildly after a big rain as the wells around here work on a karst system. My well is 487’ feet deep. It holds a steady 7.5, but, I have seen it as high as 9.2!

 

[GrumpAzz]

Oh no, I don’t think you’re blaming anyone. Just trying to figure it out.
I would guess it would be the type of rock in your area, as my well water tests show no fluoride.
I do use well water. I ph it down using apple cider vinegar. My ph fluctuates wildly after a big rain as the wells around here work on a karst system. My well is 487’ feet deep. It holds a steady 7.5, but, I have seen it as high as 9.2!

I'll have my meters set up soon enough and will be able to test the ph and ppm of the well water.

I think it has something to do with all the limestone around here.

I watered the seedlings with spring water last night. Sunday or Monday, I plan to get everything plumbed. Another day to fill the RO resevoir. So around Monday or Tuesday, if there's still only 3 sprouts, I'm tossing them and starting over.

 

[CannaGranny]

I'll have my meters set up soon enough and will be able to test the ph and ppm of the well water.

I think it has something to do with all the limestone around here.

I watered the seedlings with spring water last night. Sunday or Monday, I plan to get everything plumbed. Another day to fill the RO resevoir. So around Monday or Tuesday, if there's still only 3 sprouts, I'm tossing them and starting over.

I start mine in a cup of dampened soil. I ph the water down to 5.9 to start my seedlings. As soon as they sprout, I up it to 6-6.2. We have a lot of limestone here too.

 

[GrumpAzz]

I start mine in a cup of dampened soil. I ph the water down to 5.9 to start my seedlings. As soon as they sprout, I up it to 6-6.2. We have a lot of limestone here too.

I've had great success starting them in grow-plugs. Just drop and water. Easy peasy.

 

[Stoneyluv]

I think it has something to do with all the limestone around here.

limestone water makes the BEST moonshine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[GrumpAzz]

Well I think I'm gonna toss these fellers so I've changed the thread name to reflect that. I finally got a 4th to pop maybe 2 days ago, but I want a great start, not a salty one with seedlings looking like they're in 4 different stages. So to the next strain I go. Plenty of beans in the roster, so I'm not gonna fret.

I have faith in Redbeard's beans so I'm gonna pop his Lemony Shiznitz instead. I got a freebie 4 pack and I trust that all 4 will sprout. I'll used bottled RO water with a dash of RapidStart. Hopefully I can get my RO system plumbed in today. I got a doghouse to build first.

 

[Stoneyluv]

 

[GrumpAzz]

$300 dog box is built. On to the RO system.

 

[steamroller]

That's a good looking beast.
I had a Lab/ Shepard mix that looked very similar as my first on my own dog in the 80's.
'Coach' was an awesome companion and protecter.

 

[BlueCollarBob]

Pretty pup. The dog crate looks good. Much too nice to show to my dogs.

Is it an optical illusion making it look like that door can't be opened or is it just a door that's no longer in use?

 

[GrumpAzz]

That's a good looking beast.
I had a Lab/ Shepard mix that looked very similar as my first on my own dog in the 80's.
'Coach' was an awesome companion and protecter.

He's all Shepherd. I think 105lbs. Biggest wuss EVER.

Pretty pup. The dog crate looks good. Much too nice to show to my dogs.

Is it an optical illusion making it look like that door can't be opened or is it just a door that's no longer in use?

Haha. I spoil my critters, and no. That door was pretty well useless with the ramp there, and I've got a best friend confined to his wheelchair so it stays. I put a doggy door in that door for the hounds. It was hard to find a happy medium for height considering that dog vs. my mini schnauzer

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Hey shyooot.. I found a little T fitting while looking through all my crap. I broke a fitting for my pump and was digging for something to fit that and voilà.. I'm tapped into my water line headed to the fridge. It was a 5 minute hookup and it's not bolted to the wall and filling my drum. Hell yeah. Only took 10 minutes to get some RO goin'.

 

[steamroller]

Do you have a float valve for your drum?
They are great~!

Reverse Osmosis Adjustable Float Valve

Why does BRS recommend this? Float valves are simple to install and can save a lot of water from ending up on the floor. They can be installed in containers as small 1 gallon pails, sumps, and 200 plus gallon commercial storage containers to shut off the flow of water. Even if you do not have a...

www.bulkreefsupply.com

^ this one is adjustable after you drill it in the barrel.^

 

[GrumpAzz]

Do you have a float valve for your drum?
They are great~!

Reverse Osmosis Adjustable Float Valve

Why does BRS recommend this? Float valves are simple to install and can save a lot of water from ending up on the floor. They can be installed in containers as small 1 gallon pails, sumps, and 200 plus gallon commercial storage containers to shut off the flow of water. Even if you do not have a...

www.bulkreefsupply.com

^ this one is adjustable after you drill it in the barrel.^

I do, and I think that's where that little T fitting came from.

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I got all the Hydroponics plumbed in today and will be able to focus on all the electrical from here. Everything is in place and ready for power.

After that, a deep cleaning is in store. Everything will be ready so I'm hoping that, by next weekend, the seedling can motive into the system.

We're 2 days in after planting. No signs yet.

 

[GrumpAzz]

4 days now since I dropped the beans into the grow plugs. No sign yet. They usually pop for me in 3-4 days so

 

[Aqua Man]

4 days now since I dropped the beans into the grow plugs. No sign yet. They usually pop for me in 3-4 days so

Depends on the moisture and seed age, genetics and dryness

 

[GrumpAzz]

Depends on the moisture and seed age, genetics and dryness

They weren't very appealing to the eye. A couple really pale ones. I did nothing else different this time. RO with a dash of RapidRooter. Although I am using a different brand of plugs

 

[Max]

Hve a little sneak peak..I do just to see how they are going..how far down you put ‘em.

 

[Stoneyluv]

thats the only thing i don't like about plugs... i'm too damn nosy and i wanna know what going on at any given time, there's no way i can just wait and watch!! i just don't have patience.

 

[Max]

im same bud.i don’t want to wait 4 days cause if they aren’t coming you gotta throw some more in quick to catch up with the others..most of the time I’m just looking.sometimes abit of perlite stops them….I’ve never used the plugs.

 

[MDK]

$300 dog box is built. On to the RO system.
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I laughed because I thought you were building a doghouse for your RO system to hide it or something....then there's this a massive ass doghouse with a real dog, jeez I'm high

 

[GrumpAzz]

Hve a little sneak peak..I do just to see how they are going..how far down you put ‘em.

I might just have to do that if there's nobody peeking out. I just tug off a small piece of the plug and stick it in the hole. I should be able to get somewhat of a look at em by carefully pulling it open.

 

[GrumpAzz]

I might just have to do that if there's nobody peeking out. I just tug off a small piece of the plug and stick it in the hole. I should be able to get somewhat of a look at em by carefully pulling it open.

Yep still no signs of life. They're planted a 1/4" into the plug and I just saw seeds when I peeked