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[smoke]

What temp did you press at?
I've been a real slacker and have been putting off pressing for weeks now.
No good reason and basically out. Well out of rosin...

200 - 210 dabpress

 

[ZombieRider]

A few updates

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Damn man, your setup is legit mad-scientist-level lol. Loving the rosin pressing, what kinda press do you have?

 

[moe.red]

So on the press, I have been having some problems with efficiency. I was getting 7 - 9% output. Pretty low. Run the same stuff thru the rotovap and getting easily double.

This time I used "fresh" weed that has just come out of dry. I used a smaller round prepress which gives better PSI on the puck, and less distance for the wax to travel. I upped the temps to 215 and time to 130 seconds. That got me up in the 15% range, I can live with that.

I'll continue to tweak it as I learn more. I think I have room for more heat and pressure, the result is quite blonde.

 

[moe.red]

Love your pictures moe

Edit: when i press, ipress 14 gms at a time

My press apparently does not have the ass to push thru that much.

Smaller amounts gives me higher pressure and better results. I guess I need a bigger press!

 

[Bandit420]

So on the press, I have been having some problems with efficiency. I was getting 7 - 9% output. Pretty low. Run the same stuff thru the rotovap and getting easily double.

This time I used "fresh" weed that has just come out of dry. I used a smaller round prepress which gives better PSI on the puck, and less distance for the wax to travel. I upped the temps to 215 and time to 130 seconds. That got me up in the 15% range, I can live with that.

I'll continue to tweak it as I learn more. I think I have room for more heat and pressure, the result is quite blonde.

There's a few adjustments to get the blonde...Lower temps and longer pressings usually do it for me

This is a 185*F, 5 minute press resulting in a blonde crumble/budder. Flow usually stops between 3.5 and 4.5 minutes but I go for 5 just to get as much yield as possible and hits around a 25% return




Between 170 and 190 will bring lighter color. Anything above 200 will usually turn dark amber to chocolate. The lower the temp, the lighter the color but also let it press longer than normal for best yields.
Strain and moisture content always play it's role as I'm sure you know, just always a crap shoot there, but you have a freeze dryer so a blonde live resin should come ez at the lower temps.

 

[moe.red]

There's a few adjustments to get the blonde...Lower temps and longer pressings usually do it for me

This is a 185*F, 5 minute press resulting in a blonde crumble/budder. Flow usually stops between 3.5 and 4.5 minutes but I go for 5 just to get as much yield as possible and hits around a 25% return

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Between 170 and 190 will bring lighter color. Anything above 200 will usually turn dark amber to chocolate. The lower the temp, the lighter the color but also let it press longer than normal for best yields.
Strain and moisture content always play it's role as I'm sure you know, just always a crap shoot there, but you have a freeze dryer so a blonde live resin should come ez at the lower temps.

Interestingly enough, "rehydrating" buds meaning putting them in the jar at 68% for a couple weeks had no impact on older buds. I thought for sure it would help. I guess once they get too dry for pressing, you missed your opportunity?


I've never even gotten close to 5 minutes. I'll give that a try, thanks.

Do you use bags?

 

[GoodShit97]

My press apparently does not have the ass to push thru that much.

Smaller amounts gives me higher pressure and better results. I guess I need a bigger press!

Ill take this one off your hands if you get a new one

 

[Bandit420]

Interestingly enough, "rehydrating" buds meaning putting them in the jar at 68% for a couple weeks had no impact on older buds. I thought for sure it would help. I guess once they get too dry for pressing, you missed your opportunity?


I've never even gotten close to 5 minutes. I'll give that a try, thanks.

Do you use bags?

Yeah I use bags now. I once used a prepress but I like what bags deliver but there's tricks to using them.
To match size I go with a width that's half my plate size and height equal to plate size so for my 4"x4" plates I use a 2"x4" bag. The drier the weed the tighter the micron is ideal but I find a 120 micron is a good all purpose mesh.
The bottom corners also need to be folded in to prevent bag blowouts so until a routine is developed it can be frustrating dialing in bags.
The drier the weed, usually the more it will come out of a bag natually dewaxed and in a ez to handle crumble state while moisture results in waxy oil

 

[smoke]

This is only time i use boveda to rehydrate and i use the 72.
I have found the shorter the cure the blonder the finished product

Edit: if using bags, make sure the seam is on the outside, you may have to turn the bags inside out

 

[Moshmen]

A few updates

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Nice u like that round press don’t ya? , did ya see an increase ?

 

[Moshmen]

200 - 210 dabpress

I start at 190 don’t like going up - 210 would be limit as well

 

[Moshmen]

Yeah I use bags now. I once used a prepress but I like what bags deliver but there's tricks to using them.
To match size I go with a width that's half my plate size and height equal to plate size so for my 4"x4" plates I use a 2"x4" bag. The drier the weed the tighter the micron is ideal but I find a 120 micron is a good all purpose mesh.
The bottom corners also need to be folded in to prevent bag blowouts so until a routine is developed it can be frustrating dialing in bags.
The drier the weed, usually the more it will come out of a bag natually dewaxed and in a ez to handle crumble state while moisture results in waxy oil

I run the 120 as well I turn my bags inside out so the stitching is on the outside the theory is it traps flow if left on the inside .

 

[moe.red]

Nice u like that round press don’t ya? , did ya see an increase ?

Too many variables to say for sure, but yes the round pre-press was at least partially responsible for doubling my output from 7% to 15%.

I'm also using different bud that just came out of dry, and higher temp longer time.

I think the biggest difference was in the bud personally. Need more time with the press to be sure.

 

[Moshmen]

I know I know I’m fuckin late to party as usual

 

[moe.red]

On to soil.

 

[moe.red]

Bugs are getting out of control. DE is not getting it done. Once wet it is pretty useless.

Got the other suggestions on order and will be here tomorrow. I'll do a closeup on what works to kill MFing fruit flies. All bugs can eat shit. Except for the predatory ones coming in the mail. They cool.

 

[OLDCRO]

Put a bowl of cider vinegar with a teaspoon of dish soap mixed in place on tent floor will attract them once they step in bowl cant get out will drown.

 

[moe.red]

Put a bowl of cider vinegar with a teaspoon of dish soap mixed in place on tent floor will attract them once they step in bowl cant get out will drown.

I thought catching them on the yellow traps would help. Gonna have to get them at the source I think.

 

[OLDCRO]

Bugs are getting out of control. DE is not getting it done. Once wet it is pretty useless.

Got the other suggestions on order and will be here tomorrow. I'll do a closeup on what works to kill MFing fruit flies. All bugs can eat shit. Except for the predatory ones coming in the mail. They cool.

What did you order for predatory bugs.

 

[MysticEpipedon]

I thought catching them on the yellow traps would help. Gonna have to get them at the source I think.

Sticky traps are good to monitor a situation, but they don't seem to control gnats.

If nematodes are part of your beneficials package, they seem to take 1-2 weeks to really start bringing the population down.

 

[moe.red]

What did you order for predatory bugs.

 

[moe.red]

Sticky traps are good to monitor a situation, but they don't seem to control gnats.

If nematodes are part of your beneficials package, they seem to take 1-2 weeks to really start bringing the population down.

Nematodes and de and mosquito bits is what I am trying.

 

[OLDCRO]

The cider vinegar with dish soap will knock down the adult flyers faster than sticky traps. for some reason they love cider vinegar.

 

[Aqua Man]

Bugs are getting out of control. DE is not getting it done. Once wet it is pretty useless.

Got the other suggestions on order and will be here tomorrow. I'll do a closeup on what works to kill MFing fruit flies. All bugs can eat shit. Except for the predatory ones coming in the mail. They cool.

Bti and stickies

 

[moe.red]

Bti and stickies

Mosquito bits here tomorrow

 

[Aqua Man]

Mosquito bits here tomorrow

I had a grow at a buddies he got fungus gnats… that solved it. I forget who told me but yeah it works

 

[Aqua Man]

We crushed em and sprinkled on top of the media. It does take a couple weeks and the stickies should be placed as close to the media as possible. Turn temo up as warm as the plants allow you to also

 

[midwestcannaman]

We crushed em and sprinkled on top of the media. It does take a couple weeks and the stickies should be placed as close to the media as possible. Turn temo up as warm as the plants allow you to also

Or you can get the liquid bti, I started using this stuff and never had another problem.

 

[Observer]

These roots were small and not a good indicator. On the next grow I’ll be growing alongside soil so the roots should fill the bucket and I’ll test then.

Frigging bugs already.

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Ah

Got it from the soil or from someone here already?

 

[Rootsruler]

Dryback and soil drench with the solution of choice.