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[smoke]

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Cloner upgrades. Playing with spectrum and a few other things. Also took some woody clones and some new growth to show the differences in root establishment.

Hey moe, what was the results of this trial. Im about to take clones. Do i want woody stock or fresh tops?

 

[moe.red]

Hey moe, what was the results of this trial. Im about to take clones. Do i want woody stock or fresh tops?

Middle zone if you are taking a bunch. Woody if you want the biggest jump start on the grow and have room to spread them out in the cloner.

Clones dig blue photons.

15 on 15 off running a small airstone keeps res temp below 75.

I'll grab you some pics when I pull these out to send to SLG. I think @Moshmen wants too.

 

[Observer]

Feeding it.

lol

 

[Observer]

Clones dig blue photons.

why/what does the blue-spectrum do for the cloning process?

i understand a little about photomorphogenesis, and spectrum affects on cells but curious what logic context youre going off of to suggest blue, or what you see or measure that the cloning process likes the blue spec.

Thank you for you're time.

 

[smoke]

My t5 florescent is blue

 

[Observer]

My t5 florescent is blue

My t5 florescent is blue

besides keeping node spacing tighter, I'm curious what the other benefits could be for the cloning process blue-spec.

 

[Zen_seeker]

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@Franksta , moe

Very cool.

 

[moe.red]

The blue - I'm trying to promote root growth not plant growth. Blue seems to help that. As I said, I am playing with this and learning from my experiences. The light I added also does other colors, but what I have learned in the fog cloner, seedlings, and other testing I have done is blue is best for small plants. That is subject to change with more data.

 

[Observer]

The blue - I'm trying to promote root growth not plant growth. Blue seems to help that. As I said, I am playing with this and learning from my experiences. The light I added also does other colors, but what I have learned in the fog cloner, seedlings, and other testing I have done is blue is best for small plants. That is subject to change with more data.

Sweet

Found something

Light-Quality Manipulation to Control Plant Growth and Photomorphogenesis in Greenhouse Horticulture: The State of the Art and the Opportunities of Modern LED Systems - Journal of Plant Growth Regulation

Light quantity (intensity and photoperiod) and quality (spectral composition) affect plant growth and physiology and interact with other environmental parameters and cultivation factors in determining the plant behaviour. More than providing the energy for photosynthesis, light also dictates...

link.springer.com

PDF paper on spectrum effects and controlling/manipulating photomorphogenesis with spectrum.

Now I heard blue was good for young plants/seedlings back in the day , but the exact data as to how and why - idk.

But now that we've learned a lot of the basics, can dive deeper.

 

[Observer]

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15 on 15 off

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Cloning hours?

Intriguing

Keeps the day light hours up for veg and energy and keeps the night time hours up for Calvin cycle?

Have you tried "pushing" the cloning process yet with more intense light?

 

[Observer]

""15 on 15 off running a small airstone keeps res temps under 75""

Had trouble quoting, lol.

For the cloning process?

Intriguing

15 hours on to keep in veg state, supply energy, 15 hours off for kalvin-cycle time?

@Moe.Red

 

[moe.red]

Sorry no 15 minutes of spray on then 15 off. Trying to keep res temps down. Running the pump full time is not only not necessary, it heats the water to dangerous levels, at least in my cloner.

 

[Observer]

Sorry no 15 minutes of spray on then 15 off. Trying to keep res temps down. Running the pump full time is not only not necessary, it heats the water to dangerous levels, at least in my cloner.

My bad, gotcha.

 

[moe.red]

Your down 127 pounds? Willingly? If so congratulations friend, that is no small feat. Sometimes its like, "life sucks and then you die...smoke weed in the meantime" . Hope all is well with your fam, my Dad is going through/went through heart issues this year and its a wakeup call for sure.

Yup now even more. I was a phatt phuck. I woulda popped the tires on that bike of yours.

I don't know if I would say willingly, but definitely the goal. I fit in normal human clothes now and people don't recognize me. I was mostly wearing moo moos and crocks.

Here is todays side by side of the soil vs hydro test:



Kinda looks like a watermelon

 

[GrumpAzz]

I don't know if I would say willingly, but definitely the goal. I fit in normal human clothes now and people don't recognize me. I was mostly wearing moo moos and crocks.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Pretty impressive side by side.

 

[Observer]

Yup now even more. I was a phatt phuck. I woulda popped the tires on that bike of yours.

I don't know if I would say willingly, but definitely the goal. I fit in normal human clothes now and people don't recognize me. I was mostly wearing moo moos and crocks.

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Kinda looks like a watermelon

lmao


theres just no comparison

 

[Observer]

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Kinda looks like a watermelon

to rub salt on the wound or whatever the fuck that saying is.

is that a 3 to 5 gallon fabric pot? and soil?


This is a half gallon of Not-Soil (what do we term this besides "sterile"), little less or so.

Point of this is, pot size difference when using soil and (not-Soil lol) ready to go salts.

For anyone else

 

[SSgrower]

As we know, soil grows are like a "Battery" run, more soil equals more battery of nutrition. SSgrower

 

[moe.red]

to rub salt on the wound or whatever the fuck that saying is.

is that a 3 to 5 gallon fabric pot? and soil?


This is a half gallon of Not-Soil (what do we term this besides "sterile"), little less or so.

Point of this is, pot size difference when using soil and (not-Soil lol) ready to go salts.

For anyone else

10 gallon fabric. Doing the Canna Granny style grow using her mix precisely.

I would have liked to veg longer on the soil to get a bigger plant, but that damn hydro plant was not having it.

 

[Observer]

10 gallon fabric. Doing the Canna Granny style grow using her mix precisely.

I would have liked to veg longer on the soil to get a bigger plant, but that damn hydro plant was not having it.

Right on.

that perspective is fucked for me then lol, looked like a 5gal.

Nice to see what seems a pretty legit side, bet that's mostly o2 content availability and food availability/intakes easier that we are seeing here.

Even if it may be you're first time using soil, I don't think there's a lot else that could of been done to optimize it.

 

[moe.red]

Right on.

that perspective is fucked for me then lol, looked like a 5gal.

Nice to see what seems a pretty legit side, bet that's mostly o2 content availability and food availability/intakes easier that we are seeing here.

Even if it may be you're first time using soil, I don't think there's a lot else that could of been done to optimize it.

The hydro site (square pot) is 13 gallons for reference.

 

[moe.red]

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Homer to homely

 

[Observer]

The hydro site (square pot) is 13 gallons for reference.

Plant just dwarfs em

 

[GrumpAzz]

Homer to homely

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Heck yeah man. Looking sharp too!

 

[Max]

Are you holding your breath..let it out moe

seriously your looking healthy for an ole fella.

 

[moe.red]

Are you holding your breath..let it out moe

seriously your looking healthy for an ole fella.

Wearing a girdle. Better than giving up cheeseburgers.

Just 200 pounds left to go and you guys will be rid of me. I figure in about 20 months at this rate I will simply evaporate.

 

[Max]

You look a little like me .just gotta add my big guts .I’m 100kgs .need to get down abit..I battle to lift my leg to get into my hilux ..doesn’t help with a 2 ‘ lift kit and 33” tires.split the ass out of my jeans getting in it the other day..haha

 

[Zen_seeker]

Homer to homely

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Better than me.

Perfect weight used to be 220lbs. Not sure what is now that I’m older.

Got as high as 380 at one point. Then decided to lose it. Made it to 260lbs. Looked good. Helped I was doing our house Reno.

Got back to 360lbs a few years back and decided to change again. Cut way back on some stuff, like beer, tequila. Sitting around 280lbs but lost a lot of muscle mass this year. Still, working on it.

 

[moe.red]

Better than me.

Perfect weight used to be 220lbs. Not sure what is now that I’m older.

Got as high as 380 at one point. Then decided to lose it. Made it to 260lbs. Looked good. Helped I was doing our house Reno.

Got back to 360lbs a few years back and decided to change again. Cut way back on some stuff, like beer, tequila. Sitting around 280lbs but lost a lot of muscle mass this year. Still, working on it.

The struggle is real.

Now that I can shop off the rack, see my toes, and fit in an airplane seat, there is no way I am going back. I've got about 20 left to get to my goal weight. That is where I will stay even if I have to cut a leg off to keep it there.