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Bandit420 said:
Those are some seriously funky airpots with those lips over the holes. Those lips will redirect roots backwards and they may not airprune. I'd drill those lips out of there and open those holes up to be 2-3x that size.
They probably did that to make watering easier and less of a mess but that where the dunk technique of watering comes into play or using drip irrigation is also a good idea
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I'm about ready to pull these out and go to fabric pots. These cheap shits seem to be causing problems. They are a knock off of what you use available from Amazon. Probably a bad call on my part.
 
Moe.Red said:
I'm about ready to pull these out and go to fabric pots. These cheap shits seem to be causing problems. They are a knock off of what you use available from Amazon. Probably a bad call on my part.
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I say it a lot man...airpots are often imitated but rarely duplicated. Lots of knock offs out there that just don't get it right for a variety of reasons.
The square holed versions were the worst I'd seen though so at least you avoided those.

Yours will work, they just need to be modified. The top 3 rows of nipples should be closed off to contain and direct water downwards, maybe use hot glue on those, and yep I'd drill out all the other holes to be bigger
 
smoke said:
Its more than just the pots imo

The plants on the right like the pots but the 4 on the left don't???
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Agree. Looks like tell tale signs of unwashed coco used in the Mendo Mix.
Over in Sri Lanka where most coco comes from they wash huge piles of coco with sea water right there on the beaches. That sea water dries and leaves behind salt which needs to be well rinsed before using.
Run a TDS test on it and check what a handful of soil soaked in maybe a half gallon of water or so will read...I'd bet it's well up over 1000ppm and close to 2000 with that kind of toxicity showing. Almost as if it's been watered with salt water from the ocean. Organic soils should barely register a TDS reading if any at all
 
Bandit420 said:
Agree. Looks like tell tale signs of unwashed coco used in the Mendo Mix.
Over in Sri Lanka where most coco comes from they wash huge piles of coco with sea water right there on the beaches. That sea water dries and leaves behind salt which needs to be well rinsed before using.
Run a TDS test on it and check what a handful of soil soaked in maybe a half gallon of water or so will read...I'd bet it's well up over 1000ppm and close to 2000 with that kind of toxicity showing. Almost as if it's been watered with salt water from the ocean. Organic soils should barely register a TDS reading if any at all
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I think the opposite… inert media will be close to 0. But anything with organics will be high. Imo there is no way to know how well the coco was pre-rinsed now thats its mixed. Its not uncommon to see organic soils produce a ppm of over 3000 and be fine. All the tannins and many other things increase the ppm you will read when dealing with a media that has organics.

About the only way to know if sodium is high from the coco is a soil test that shows sodium levels.

This to me looks like an o2 issue from the amount of water the media holds.
 
Aqua Man said:
I think the opposite… inert media will be close to 0. But anything with organics will be high. Imo there is no way to know how well the coco was pre-rinsed now thats its mixed. Its not uncommon to see organic soils produce a ppm of over 3000 and be fine. All the tannins and many other things increase the ppm you will read when dealing with a media that has organics.

About the only way to know if sodium is high from the coco is a soil test that shows sodium levels.

This to me looks like an o2 issue from the amount of water the media holds.
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If a soil or potting mix is running a high ppm it's one probably one of two things...salt or sand in the mix. Neither should be in there IMO if you want a clean soil grow. I think mine run in the low 200s because I eliminate salts and anything that can bring salt to the party.
There's defintly a lot of things fucked up with these plants with one issue exacerbating another issue. Toxicity leading to uptake issues leading to waterlogged medium and no air for roots. They need the complete overhaul as suggested to save them, new soil and almost new everything to clear that stuff out of the roots.
 
Was it AquaMan that once said on a former forum "no such thing as to much water, only a lack of oxigen". If it were solely the pots, the problem would be with all of them. Could those pots be improved? likely! But it isn't the problem. If you fill one of those pots with Georgia clay and one with Lush potting soil, what's gonna happen? Is it the pots fault that one will dry out in days while the other takes weeks to months? No, of course not. Plainly as I can say it, You have some $h!t soil. Just like I had some $h!t Jack's and it darn near killed my RDWC. IMHO, You have the same issue Moe, just in soil. Could be salt in the coco, could be a complete lack of nute, some sort of lockout? Who knows. What is as obvious to me as the nose on my face is it is as simple as the differance in the medium they are in. One holds way to much water and likely has other issues, and one doesn't. 👨‍🌾 (y) Hope that helps!
 
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How's the gnats thing going moe? I am getting ready to roll again, had very few last grow but I'd rather not have any (soil grown). What's working for you?

Sorry being lazy lot to read here I'll need a while to catch up...just hoping you'd give me the summary so I didn't have to commit to reading 15 pages 😂
 
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MDK said:
How's the gnats thing going moe? I am getting ready to roll again, had very few last grow but I'd rather not have any (soil grown). What's working for you?

Sorry being lazy lot to read here I'll need a while to catch up...just hoping you'd give me the summary so I didn't have to commit to reading 15 pages 😂
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Used multiple treatments. Mosquito bits seemed to be the ticket tho.
 
Moe.Red said:
Used multiple treatments. Mosquito bits seemed to be the ticket tho.
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LOVE my Gnatrol WDG (active ingrediant in Mosquito Bits). Works like magic. Ebay sellers have it in sizes from 1/2 oz to 16 lbs. In general, if I use it to water in each time I up-pot transplants into new soil, it's a one and done for that pot. Sometimes in a mid summer grow, I'll have to do a second treatment if I see them re-appear, but that's the exception and not the rule. 👨‍🌾 (y)

How are your 3 tramma patients doing? Better I hope! ;) What did you finally decide to do for them? :geek:
 
IamN2pot said:
LOVE my Gnatrol WDG (active ingrediant in Mosquito Bits). Works like magic. Ebay sellers have it in sizes from 1/2 oz to 16 lbs. In general, if I use it to water in each time I up-pot transplants into new soil, it's a one and done for that pot. Sometimes in a mid summer grow, I'll have to do a second treatment if I see them re-appear, but that's the exception and not the rule. 👨‍🌾 (y)

How are your 3 tramma patients doing? Better I hope! ;) What did you finally decide to do for them? :geek:
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Just got home been out all day. I’ll check out the babies in a bit. But overall those mendo mix girls are looking like shit. But that is why I did this had to bust my cherry on dirt. Learning a lot.
 
Moe.Red said:
Check this out Dr.

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Both same age clones. Soil on the left RDWC on the right. Everything else same.

Time to clone these and start over so I can get them the same size. Or closer.
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yup, there it is.
soil is inefficient, in terms of speed anyways. lol


this isnt even the fog though, is this o2 injected rdwc?

is ur concentrator connected to this one?

nice.

i suspect a fog/aero chamber would be just a tad faster than rdwc, i suppose.

unless DO is the same ?
 
Observer said:
yup, there it is.
soil is inefficient, in terms of speed anyways. lol


this isnt even the fog though, is this o2 injected rdwc?

is ur concentrator connected to this one?

nice.

i suspect a fog/aero chamber would be just a tad faster than rdwc, i suppose.

unless DO is the same ?
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No I’m just doing standard hydro but dialed in on O2.

I’m literally trying to keep the hydro plant from growing. I’d like them to be the same size.
 
Moe.Red said:
Check this out Dr.

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Both same age clones. Soil on the left RDWC on the right. Everything else same.

Time to clone these and start over so I can get them the same size. Or closer.
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Yes, RDWC is my next Canna Journey. JJ used hydroton in his grows and his garden was always full. This is why I am here, to learn from you guys so I can achieve the yields I desire. Beautiful foliage color. This is why I am here, to learn. JJ actually used a "Cattle Trough" for a reservois. SSgrower
 
Morning @Moe.Red .was thinking about finishing up my natural farming recipe thread this weekend.will it save still, I saw something you posted about how stuff wouldn't save if it was done between now and when you finished system maintenance. Thanks
 
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