Grump's Gelonade X Blueberry Cupcake Grow 🌱

GrumpAzz said:

They're taking off now and I'm force-feeding at this point. I've never gone this high of ppm.
1250 FAFO

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do you remember how much you started out at from the time you put them in the system?

your roots are milk white!! are you still using those free sample nutes?

Stoneyluv said:

do you remember how much you started out at from the time you put them in the system?

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Here are my batch notes for the veg cycle. They're a bit chaotic but there's a method somewhere in the madness.

That change on the 5th wasn't a full change. I mixed a new top-off batch and replaced just under half of the lowers.

You can see the bumps. Started at 100-150, to 300, 560, 750 and ended with 980 being topped off with 1320. Sometimes I mix a hot batch and dilute it so that it slowly gets more ppm as they drink and it gets topped off. I also add 15ml or so of Orca and Fulvic every full res change.

They've sucked in 6 gallons in the last 3 days. Half gallon per day per plant.

Stoneyluv said:

your roots are milk white!! are you still using those free sample nutes?

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Yeah man I'm impressed so far. There's a pretty nasty brown film on everything in the top-off res so the real test will be the nuggets. Like I said above, I'll have enough to do 3 grows to really decide whether or not I like it enough to pay for it. I've been using their balance for the last couple changeouts and it has really kept a solid pH. Easier than premixing the Agsil beforehand as well.

Just a few days into flower now but they've shown some incredible growth already putting on an inch a day. They drank 2.5 gallons since last night. Doing their thang!

Don't mind the heavy red lighting
99r:99w:39b spectrum


Tiniest little bit of tip burn on one of the plants. I'm not concerned just yet. All the others are looking beautiful.

Res change tonight. There was only 5 gallons left so I figured I'd change it on a night that's not a work-night. They drank 16 gallons in the first 7 days of 12/12. Ppms in the plant sites outran the top-off ppms leading me to believe the last mix was too hot, so i dropped it this time.

Still getting really light colored new growth so I doubled the calmag intake hoping for an N boost. They need the extra calmag now anyway.
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The light colored new growth


There are a whopping 2 whole leaves that have this going on. Same plant. Windiest corner. I messed with that a bit.


Tent: 84°/50% rh
Leaf temp: 75-77°
Water temp: 72°
Plants: 1090/5.7
Top-off: 740/5.9

1480 at the plants before the change. I only emptied the control res completely which left a gallon or so at each plant. Dropped 1050 down and the final mix ended there at 1090. I expect that to climb as it circulates for a day or two. I'll adjust the pH up to 6.0 if it doesn't do that on it's own by then.

I added the rest of my RO to the top-off to make this batch last as long as possible. Next changeout, I'll likely just mix a slightly hotter batch and not do a full change. Just let it slowly rise over time.

The most vigorous plant has grown an inch per day reaching 16" now. I pulled the Velcro tie-downs because they are starting to grow together. Lettin' em run.

Thinking if dropping the rH to 45%. Up that VPD a bit. Hammer down!

I pulled a stem rub from 2 of them. I've got 2 that are runty and bushy and 2 that are looking pretty damn good. I rubbed 1 of each structure. Bushy runts smelled of orange citrus. The other was harder to pin down. Maybe Lime with a spicy/herbal overtone.

That is some healthy ass foliage. Go My Dude! Go! My only concern is the leaf/air temp differential. 9° is a big expanse but maybe not so much in the water world. Soilless Boy throwing out his 2¢.

Might be hitting you up for a day or two at your resort. Cheap but decent lodging recs are appreciated.

BTW we don't have to do the obligatory snap of us at your resort if you want to stay on the DL! I actually prefer anonymity but I'm good with showing the crew you in beast mode! PM is fine also!

Rootsruler said:

Might be hitting you up for a day or two at your resort. Cheap but decent lodging recs are appreciated.

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Unless you're talking about my basement, I think you have me confused with someone else...

It's an honor to be confused with @Cool_Beans, though.

Lower resevoirs seem to have settled at 1140/6.0

Rootsruler said:

That is some healthy ass foliage. Go My Dude! Go! My only concern is the leaf/air temp differential. 9° is a big expanse but maybe not so much in the water world.

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The light is 4 feet above the plants and the cool air is coming in from the bottom.

They're really starting to take off so I think the high respiration plays a pretty big role in the high differential.

Just spitballing. Last few runs had a box fan above the light that kept the differential at -1 or -2. I'll be trying to implement that again with my next grows.

What is your water temp?

steamroller said:

What is your water temp?

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72

GrumpAzz said:

Unless you're talking about my basement, I think you have me confused with someone else...

It's an honor to be confused with @Cool_Beans, though.

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DAMN! I need to take it easy on the last harvest!

Rootsruler said:

DAMN! I need to take it easy on the last harvest!

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or maybe just not enough!!!