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Bushman said:
I'm so grateful for all your help folks🙏🏼

Thanks!! Stuff you sharing is priceless.

SweetLeafGrow, what about my system. RDWC with control bucket but no valve in it. It's not auto top off right?
I using control bucket to add fresh water, nutes and make my measurements.
When adding nutrients, i doing it separately with every nute, and waiting a little until it mixes up in reservoirs. I heard, its not good when you mixing nutes all together at once.

Generally, as i understand, hydroponics working better with cuttings than plants from seed. From my observation, there is a lot of struggling for those tiny plants. Or im wrong here?, and those seedlings are struggling because of me, lol

I already acquired an aeroponic cloner for the future. And those two small seedlings are bubble gums, I'll try to make them mother plants..


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Love the buble.gum.who is the breeder?
 
Bushman said:
I'm so grateful for all your help folks🙏🏼

Thanks!! Stuff you sharing is priceless.

SweetLeafGrow, what about my system. RDWC with control bucket but no valve in it. It's not auto top off right?
I using control bucket to add fresh water, nutes and make my measurements.
When adding nutrients, i doing it separately with every nute, and waiting a little until it mixes up in reservoirs. I heard, its not good when you mixing nutes all together at once.

Generally, as i understand, hydroponics working better with cuttings than plants from seed. From my observation, there is a lot of struggling for those tiny plants. Or im wrong here?, and those seedlings are struggling because of me, lol

I already acquired an aeroponic cloner for the future. And those two small seedlings are bubble gums, I'll try to make them mother plants..


❤️✌🏼🍀
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I know you asked slg but I’ll put in a couple of pennies.

There is not that much difference between a system with auto top off and one without if everything else is equal. The big thing is one is more manual. It’s sounds like that is what you have. A manual top off.

With an auto top off there are 2 ways to do it. One is keep the levels up with RO. The other is to top off with a nutrient mix. Both work fine but it affects how you interpret your ph and EC trends. We can dig into all that in time, but honestly it would just be confusing at this stage of your grow. Trust us to guide you and get your first harvest done and everything will make more sense.

Adding nutes separately is correct. In your case the correct order is cal mag, micros (brown stuff) then green then pink. Finally adjust ph after stirring but using RO the ph should be already set to 5.8 by the nutes you added.

After you get more comfortable we will talk about things like buffering, silica, msa, hummic and fulvic acid, and all the other potions. Right now the 4 cal, green, pink, brown are all you need. Less is more when learning and those alone will produce a great harvest.

In terms of hydro being tough with seedlings, it’s all just what you are comfortable with. I think success rates for seasoned hydro growers vs seasoned soil growers is nearly identical- approaching 100%. If the seed pops you can grow it in either system equally well.
 
You heard from the man Moe…how’s he doing..
 
Very well!!
Thanks 🙏🏼

Took some pics of them plants.
Today they are looking more alive i would say!! But there is some damage also...Is that some kind of deficiency on younger leaves?, The yellow colour?
If that's iron, i have some chelated fe liquid right away.
Btw i noticed that ec went from 345 to 355 ppm. Maybe i should dilute more?

Hey, already ordered some 35% hydrogen peroxide. Lol, today i noticed that someone else is also living in the system. Some aquatic bacteria 🤷🏼‍♂️
Thats ok lol, i hope it's not root eating goo. But if it is, I'm ready to fight it!!🧐⚔️,😁IMG_20240127_171454.jpgIMG_20240127_171502.jpgIMG_20240127_171530.jpgIMG_20240127_171549.jpg
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I am still learning the art of RDWC my bro so I would like to hear from @Moe.Red about this, but if this were me and I had no other advice, I would think hard about changing out your res and restarting with a new set of nutrient ratios 1:1:1:1 Cal/mag-Brown-Green-Pink, ppm no more than 200 and see how they respond.
 
SweetLeafGrow said:
I am still learning the art of RDWC my bro so I would like to hear from @Moe.Red about this, but if this were me and I had no other advice, I would think hard about changing out your res and restarting with a new set of nutrient ratios 1:1:1:1 Cal/mag-Brown-Green-Pink, ppm no more than 200 and see how they respond.
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No man that is solid advice. I would definatly do this. But if we have a pathogen here we need to resolve that asap as well.
 
@Bushman

I've been editing your posts to be more easily readable. You are missing one step when you post pics.

This is what it looks like:

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When I go to edit, you will see that there is an insert button on your pics:

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After you click that insert button, choose Full Image

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And the end result is the way your post looks now. Much easier to quickly see by anyone looking at your thread. You will get more / better feedback this way.
 
What I am seeing here is that we need to pull out that peroxide and start using it. We need to get the root zone healthy again.

I also do not like the stalk near the perlite. You need more airflow there to prevent crown rot which will kill your plant quick if you do not address it.

If you have a fan you can gently blow across the base of your plants, and maybe get that plastic cup out of there with some scissors, then do the res change SLG suggested and finally treat with H2O2, we can recover these plants.
 
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Red pen looks like fungus on your stalk. Very bad juju.

Blue pen looks like it might be a stick or some kind of organic matter? Anything other than inert substrate like hydroton and perlite needs to go.

Black pen looks very much like a colony forming. Probably bad.

I hate to disturb little plants, but I would seriously consider taking the top layer of perlite off as I am seeing all kinds of contamination growing in multiple spots. Then make sure you also get the peroxide treated water thru the media everywhere.


This is totally recoverable, but those plants are in stress right now.
 
Very well, very well!!
No worries!!

Awww men, that means i shouldn't use sphagnum moss lol. Roger that👍

I'll try to remove some of that upper perlite layer, and im already at collecting RO water. Tomorrow i should find a pharmacy to get some peroxide, until my order comes.

You know what folks, you are the best!!!<<<<<
I already learned so much stuff with you.
So many things are making sense now.

So many mistakes.. i must say i totally misunderstood hydroponics. But its fine. Imagine, this is my best try yet..

I running a very busy work schedule, so on my previous tries i just haven't had any time to join a community. All failed lol

But darn'it!!! I want to know how to hydro!!!

I'll see what I can do now.
Would you spray some 3% peroxide on those roots or on the crown rot?

Your time is super appreciated🙏🏼🍀

Kind regards
 
Bushman said:
Very well, very well!!
No worries!!

Awww men, that means i shouldn't use sphagnum moss lol. Roger that👍

I'll try to remove some of that upper perlite layer, and im already at collecting RO water. Tomorrow i should find a pharmacy to get some peroxide, until my order comes.

You know what folks, you are the best!!!<<<<<
I already learned so much stuff with you.
So many things are making sense now.

So many mistakes.. i must say i totally misunderstood hydroponics. But its fine. Imagine, this is my best try yet..

I running a very busy work schedule, so on my previous tries i just haven't had any time to join a community. All failed lol

But darn'it!!! I want to know how to hydro!!!

I'll see what I can do now.
Would you spray some 3% peroxide on those roots or on the crown rot?

Your time is super appreciated🙏🏼🍀

Kind regards
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Forgot you mentioned moss. Meant to say something about that earlier.

A suitable replacement would be rock wool. 1” cubes or similar is a perfect way to start seeds for RDWC.

Moss will guarantee you grow all kinds of colonies unless you actively prevent it with peroxide or chlorine from day 0. I would not even recommend going live with beneficial bacteria supplements if using an organic like moss. It will be a race to see which colony is faster to get a start good or bad bacteria. An avoidable risk on your next grow.

How is that water temp?

I’d also recommend looking for something to block light from hitting the roots. I’m betting light is getting thru those lids. Towels are good as long as they do not stay wet or otherwise promote microbial growth.

The good news is the learning curve is worth it. I did a side by side between soil and rdwc in the same tent from clones and the hydro plant was more than 3x the size / yield. Quality was evaluated using blind testing and the results were 50/50 who liked what better. Meaning statistically no difference in terms of smoke in the end.

Also keep in mind that most people don’t make it as far as you have. Think about how much better your next grow will be. If you want inspiration look at Sweetleaf grows and cool beans and buzzking and a few others that have a short time under their belt but are crushing it. Grumpazz too.

I know I’m forgetting folks but I just went to the garage to sample some gusher runtz so stoner memory rn
 
SweetLeafGrow said:
I am still learning the art of RDWC my bro so I would like to hear from @Moe.Red about this, but if this were me and I had no other advice, I would think hard about changing out your res and restarting with a new set of nutrient ratios 1:1:1:1 Cal/mag-Brown-Green-Pink, ppm no more than 200 and see how they respond.
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I agree

Res reset
 
Moe.🙏🏼

Folks, you are wonderful 💯❤️

My water temps are 18-20.
Oh, the lids are painted with many layers of paint, black underneath, white on top.
But i digging what you saying about light.
Those net pots has small openings on top, clay pebbles are not covering every spot, I'll see what i can do.
Sorry for asking again, but what about spraying some 3%peroxide on roots or crown rot.

Best wishes 🍀
 
Bushman said:
Would you spray some 3% peroxide on those roots or on the crown rot?
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Absolutely. And also get the entire media wet with it. My guess is you have a helluva colony growing under the surface that will require multiple doses.

Water temps good. You just need to kill off any biologics at this point, no other changes needed. I'd hold off on the res change until you have flushed with peroxide a time or 2. That way you can get rid of the dead organic sludge that will happen as you kill off these microbes along with draining the system.
 
Sure 🙌🏻

I saw one of these, and i made me one:

www.hydro-grow.co.uk

Alien XL 8 Pot RDWC System - Hydro Grow Eastbourne

Recirculating DWC Systems Super oxygenated nutrient solution Uniform PH & EC No medium required 32mm pipe and fittings No electronics, plug in and grow Custom systems available in any size Collapsable water tank included Can be used with water chillers
www.hydro-grow.co.uk

Each tube is 1 inch

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