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[Franksta]

Yeah I'm with @Aqua Man on this one. It's a oxide so pretty much inert unless it's some slower conversation taking place with maybe some bacteria or fungi

I would steer clear of it as there's a lot better sources available

 

[Franksta]

Ive read vinegar will kill them instantly but that shit stinks lol. Dietamtious Earth or micronized sulfur would do it too.

Acedic acid is deadly to the plants also so be careful


It's fine for cleaning up and sterilization but I would be very cautious around anything else

 

[Franksta]

On a little side note I think citric acid if it's balanced correctly and used in millimolar amounts or even salicylic acid can be effective against insects and still be useful to the plants also


I think the best one personally is using the tricontonal or however it's spelled the bee's wax carbon chain fatty acid plant hormone. Have too cook it like a crack rock to make it soluble

This dissolve insect exoskeleton I think, and beneficial to the early flowering especially

Beating back insects or pathogens should always be a multi prong approach IMO

pH targeting and plant vigor are especially important here

 

[Franksta]

bug problems please I was up at five am shooting up a horde of raccoons trying to kill my cats

The biggest one lunged at me with claws and teeth

 

[GoodShit97]

bug problems please I was up at five am shooting up a horde of raccoons trying to kill my cats

The biggest one lunged at me with claws and teeth

Go get 'em Franksta!!!
Fk them things up.

 

[Observer]

On a little side note I think citric acid if it's balanced correctly and used in millimolar amounts or even salicylic acid can be effective against insects and still be useful to the plants also

sounds good, anything 2birds-1stone

I think the best one personally is using the tricontonal or however it's spelled the bee's wax carbon chain fatty acid plant hormone. Have too cook it like a crack rock to make it soluble

ive read about it briefly and the few methods of making youre own, ive yet to get on it, triacontanol and silica +base nutrients will be looking pretty good there, then down the line get even more specific into the chemistry, and playing around with hormones

This dissolve insect exoskeleton I think, and beneficial to the early flowering especially

thats what i read about the cider vinegar

Beating back insects or pathogens should always be a multi prong approach IMO

pH targeting and plant vigor are especially important here

good to hear from ya

couldnt agree anymore, stay safe out there.

 

[Observer]

Now I don't have annoying fan blocking the light height, was attempting to get the lights closer to the top.

Will have to use wires and take em off the

 

[Observer]

Don't have any ENV controllers, or the Huey hooked up to a controller, it overpowers the tent on low, so can't keep heat IN if I have to let "RH" out.

A balancing Act

Trying to balance the environment out better and get a little more heighth space, get some inches back lol.

Was at 90 rh before I woke up and got to it.

Currently doing 16hours 150~ PPFD.

Trying to get the seedlings right so they don't stretch much, can't decide if more light hours, lower PPFD, or higher PPFD and less light hours....


Still figuring that kind of shit out.

Went ahead and planted some more seeds properly in this time actually down in the holes and not just....in the hole laying there.


Tap root was having a hard time penetrating through

Basically already fucked up the first attempt run lol, actually need to bury the seed

 

[Observer]

Did not know/think one could overwater rockwool, even in the beginning stages lol?

Hmmfph

 

[Dirtbag]

Did not know/think one could overwater rockwool, even in the beginning stages lol?

Hmmfph

Sure can. A lot of people find it difficult to root clones in rockwool because they hold too much water. Same for seedlings. Need to keep them on the very dry side at first. Small feedings from the bottom only when they're lightweight, otherwise the roots don't explore or worse, can rot.

 

[Observer]

Sure can. A lot of people find it difficult to root clones in rockwool because they hold too much water. Same for seedlings. Need to keep them on the very dry side at first. Small feedings from the bottom only when they're lightweight, otherwise the roots don't explore or worse, can rot.

Glad it's not JUST me, lol, figuring that out, I've had 0 clone success in the wool so far, leaning towards too wet.

Now I know, I'll start allowing for more of a dry back and not being so anal/worried if they dry too much, and probably need to turn the auto-water off or have it do even less, till i get something established.

Thanks man.

I like the wool, I'll get it down soon.

I could fill the tents up all year long with coco and let em go, but that gets boring.

Like to learn.

Liking that I don't have "dirt" everywhere and so much space for soil/media, get more out of less.

 

[GoodShit97]

Now I don't have annoying fan blocking the light height, was attempting to get the lights closer to the top.

Will have to use wires and take em off the

Take the rope hangers off.
Then tqke the metal brackets and use them as mounting hooks. Or use those giant caribeaner clips vipar sent. Thats how i have my xs hanging. Lol

 

[SSgrower]

Hanging lights can be a challenge, but the tents serve a purpose as our controlable Microclimate. Misspell every where, SS

 

[Observer]

Take the rope hangers off.
Then tqke the metal brackets and use them as mounting hooks. Or use those giant caribeaner clips vipar sent. Thats how i have my xs hanging. Lol

Those carabineers will work perfectly perhaps, I was taking the ratchets off and trying to put the lights through the metal brackets but a an inch or two too tight on the driver up top and said fuck it.

 

[Observer]

Hanging lights can be a challenge, but the tents serve a purpose as our controlable Microclimate. Misspell every where, SS

Rearranged the fan from the top to the bottom, seems to help keep RH and temp in line better

 

[Observer]

Take the rope hangers off.
Then tqke the metal brackets and use them as mounting hooks. Or use those giant caribeaner clips vipar sent. Thats how i have my xs hanging. Lol

Ah I just don't have enough carabineers or the big ones Atleast, probably just use the plant wire I got recently and put it through the holes

I may get a cheap CO2 system too

 

[Franksta]

Did not know/think one could overwater rockwool, even in the beginning stages lol?

Hmmfph

Yeah anything needs oxygen to the roots somehow brother. Oxygen at the roots is equally important as the moisture itself


Putting a fan or air flow into the base of everything is helpful as well cause your creating new contact with the roots at a cellular level


But the caveat then becomes keeping it moist, lol thus the equilibrium to be maintained at the roots level regardless of methods used

 

[Franksta]

Hanging lights can be a challenge, but the tents serve a purpose as our controlable Microclimate. Misspell every where, SS

Having hanging LED with adjustable hanger is really useful for optimal penetration and then using the dials to get the intensity correct


Having both of those variables seem very useful to me

 

[Zen_seeker]

Glad it's not JUST me, lol, figuring that out, I've had 0 clone success in the wool so far, leaning towards too wet.

Now I know, I'll start allowing for more of a dry back and not being so anal/worried if they dry too much, and probably need to turn the auto-water off or have it do even less, till i get something established.

Thanks man.

I like the wool, I'll get it down soon.

I could fill the tents up all year long with coco and let em go, but that gets boring.

Like to learn.

Liking that I don't have "dirt" everywhere and so much space for soil/media, get more out of less.

Interesting.

I was given three blocks of rockwool when I bought rooting gel. My first time trying clones.

Tried twice. Both failed. Switched to soil, peat puck or just a container or water. No problems, just different amounts of time before roots.

Rockwool is it’s own learning curve, for me anyway.

 

[Observer]

Yeah anything needs oxygen to the roots somehow brother. Oxygen at the roots is equally important as the moisture itself


Putting a fan or air flow into the base of everything is helpful as well cause your creating new contact with the roots at a cellular level


But the caveat then becomes keeping it moist, lol thus the equilibrium to be maintained at the roots level regardless of methods used

That balance seems to be very "fine" in RW.

 

[Franksta]

That balance seems to be very "fine" in RW.

Yeah cause it's really absorbed well and almost complete hydration is possible


If the uptake is high and the plants are bigger, it's fine...but terrible if it's very slow uptake from starts, especially clones...


If the water looses it's dissolved oxygen and it's fucked, so keeping it on the cool side helps up to the point it's not creating stress or slowing down the plants cellular metabolism. Cause remember that heat pushes oxygen out of the water

 

[Franksta]

I guess what I'm saying here is there's a lot of ways to keep oxygen at the roots but specifically from a cloning standpoint I've always had the best luck with keeping it on the drier side

Hydroponic cloners work well also if it's maintenance is correct

 

[Observer]

I guess what I'm saying here is there's a lot of ways to keep oxygen at the roots but specifically from a cloning standpoint I've always had the best luck with keeping it on the drier side

I definitely gotta keep things drier, figuring I'm over-watering.

I'm also doing high h2o2 doses too and seeing.

It's cool to play around with, I got some finally starting to grow, see how they grow it the next few days

Hydroponic cloners work well also if it's maintenance is correct

I would love to make my own hydroponic cloner, just need a few more things and I got the stuff for it basically

Fun to learn.

 

[Observer]

Yeah anything needs oxygen to the roots somehow brother. Oxygen at the roots is equally important as the moisture itself

Really starting to see/learn that

Thanks Franksta

 

[GoodShit97]

@Franksta always comes out of nowhere with all this great info, gotta love it lol.

 

[Observer]

@Franksta always comes out of nowhere with all this great info, gotta love it lol.

yea hes very knowledgeable

 

[Observer]

Starting some, healing/recovering some.

Broke one in half so it's laying on floor staying straight healing, knocked a cup on top of it lol

 

[Observer]

Must of popped when the light was off and = stretch

 

[Observer]

Gelato-45

My seeds

And 2-3 other stains.

45~ seeds down in here atm

 

[Franksta]

Starting some, healing/recovering some.

Broke one in half so it's laying on floor staying straight healing, knocked a cup on top of it lol

Those strainers look better than the cups on a drip type system like that imo. Might consider opening up the bottoms of those cups and maybe use some pointed scissors or something if they lag behind the more open ones

Circulation oxygen can get into the open types easier