All things shrooms

[MiGrampa]

What genetic again?

Pick just as the veil is stretched and almost broken. If you see gills just pick immediately because you dont want spores to drop in the soawn if you can help it.

Im thinking about a week but depends some are faster than others

The strain is "Creepers"

Being the first time, I wasn't sure about timing. I was thinking maybe by next weekend. Hopefully, I can get them before they release their spores. Evenings during the week is all I have available time-wise for harvesting.

I have a food dehydrator on the way and should be arriving by mid week. I'm also thinking of making a mushroom tincture using an ethanol extraction.

 

[Aqua Man]

The strain is "Creepers"

Being the first time, I wasn't sure about timing. I was thinking maybe by next weekend. Hopefully, I can get them before they release their spores. Evenings during the week is all I have available time-wise for harvesting.

I have a food dehydrator on the way and should be arriving by mid week. I'm also thinking of making a mushroom tincture using an ethanol extraction.

Yeah im thinking within a week or so… the first flush has lots of smaller mushrooms usually and then the number goes down but size goes up.

Its not the end of the world if spores drop and many dont worry about it but it can create a competition in the sub.

Look up willy myco on youtube for his drying rack imo better than a dehydrator. Ill try to find it fast

 

[Aqua Man]

Here ya go.

 

[Zen_seeker]

Here ya go.

You recommend watching his stuff or just like this example?

 

[MiGrampa]

Here ya go.

Simple concept and I have most of that already at home. However, I've already purchased this:

Mycolabs 350W Mushroom Dehydrator With Adjustable Temperature Control

Mycolabs 350W Mushroom Dehydrator With Adjustable Temperature Control

www.midwestgrowkits.com

Drying temperature as low as 95F ... which would be where I intend to set the machine. I'm likely to use it for more than just mushrooms.

 

[Zen_seeker]

My wife collects gadgets…we never use, air fryer also a dehydrator? Never even looked at it.

 

[Aqua Man]

You recommend watching his stuff or just like this example?

Nope he has a fair bit of good info and stays up to date on new tek

 

[Aqua Man]

Simple concept and I have most of that already at home. However, I've already purchased this:

Mycolabs 350W Mushroom Dehydrator With Adjustable Temperature Control

Mycolabs 350W Mushroom Dehydrator With Adjustable Temperature Control

www.midwestgrowkits.com

Drying temperature as low as 95F ... which would be where I intend to set the machine. I'm likely to use it for more than just mushrooms.

Yup will work but IME they take much longer than most say. They work well as i ised to use one but very limited to the amount they can do

 

[Oldsog]

I know i bit about growing them.
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@Aqua Man

In your opinion, about how much longer before I should be thinking of harvesting? This is about day 3 since I noticed any pinning.

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Probably within a week

 

[Observer]

Heh

 

[Observer]

Heh

Just gotta make it past this part lol

 

[Observer]

I've prepped another brown rice jar

This 185g rice to 158g water is perfect
1:0.67

I did 156g water though.

Plan to take some grains from the other jar once it's more colonized and add it to this jar.

 

[Observer]

Transferred a few grains

Now to see if I did it sterile enough

 

[Observer]

Transferred a few grains

Now to see if I did it sterile enough

Too impatient

Everything looks good so far

The little red tote is the only one that has/had a few grains growing mold, I think it was too much water content.

The bags and jars look good.

 

[Zen_seeker]

Too impatient

Everything looks good so far

The little red tote is the only one that has/had a few grains growing mold, I think it was too much water content.

The bags and jars look good.

You need to get this right. How else will I know what to avoid.

At least two are nearing the finish line. Not too bad considering the bad luck and power issues.

 

[Observer]

You need to get this right. How else will I know what to avoid.

At least two are nearing the finish line. Not too bad considering the bad luck and power issues.

Haha

I was too impatient to wait for it to colonize to reduce chance of contamination.

But I used a sab and ISO'd everything
So hopefully it's alright



Here's a tip I've heard

Use 70iso not 91, 91 will evaporate before it disinfects.


As long as that main albino jar makes I'll be happy.

Once colonized I'll mix some up with coco or vermiculite and then do a casing layer with either

As I am actually out of coco now.

 

[Zen_seeker]

Haha

I was too impatient to wait for it to colonize to reduce chance of contamination.

But I used a sab and ISO'd everything
So hopefully it's alright



Here's a tip I've heard

Use 70iso not 91, 91 will evaporate before it disinfects.


As long as that main albino jar makes I'll be happy.

Once colonized I'll mix some up with coco or vermiculite and then do a casing layer with either

As I am actually out of coco now.

I’ve seen your work. Other than bad luck patients is your only issue I’ve noticed. Glass house here so not throwing stones.

Sit on your hands a bit and watch for the fruits of your efforts. Then post the pics so I can see what the fruits look like before the membrane breaks.

You got this bud. I have no doubts at all.

 

[Aqua Man]

Haha

I was too impatient to wait for it to colonize to reduce chance of contamination.

But I used a sab and ISO'd everything
So hopefully it's alright



Here's a tip I've heard

Use 70iso not 91, 91 will evaporate before it disinfects.


As long as that main albino jar makes I'll be happy.

Once colonized I'll mix some up with coco or vermiculite and then do a casing layer with either

As I am actually out of coco now.

You want to add lime to a casing. Most cubes don’t need a casing. Im going to use it with PE just because it apparently helps with blobbing but will see.

If using a sub with any kind of manure you will want a casing

 

[Aqua Man]

Honestly the one thing you cant do is rush the colonization…. It will not speed anything up at all. Infact it will slow it down and greatly increase your risk of contamination.

 

[tobh]

alright, it's happening. the lady has ventured off to adventure with a friend with a pickup. hopefully she buys good, straight wood.

would y'all be interested in a min writeup for the build out of the flowhood? can dig up links for the filter and blower, but otherwise, it's a simple box. not sure if the build being documented would be of much value to anyone here.

 

[Aqua Man]

alright, it's happening. the lady has ventured off to adventure with a friend with a pickup. hopefully she buys good, straight wood.

would y'all be interested in a min writeup for the build out of the flowhood? can dig up links for the filter and blower, but otherwise, it's a simple box. not sure if the build being documented would be of much value to anyone here.

Absolutely bro

 

[Observer]

Both jars looking good so far

It's already spread out a little in the new jar.

 

[Observer]

I’ve seen your work. Other than bad luck patients is your only issue I’ve noticed. Glass house here so not throwing stones.

Sit on your hands a bit and watch for the fruits of your efforts. Then post the pics so I can see what the fruits look like before the membrane breaks.

You got this bud. I have no doubts at all.

Thanks man appreciate it.

Definitely impatient, I'm doing better with these jars though lol, not opened them at all besides the grain to grain transfer under a sab.

Keeping them shut up in the closet

I love seeing their progress every few hours or when I wake up.


The bags are looking good too.

Just used electrical tape, its keeping a positive pressure in bag which I think also may help keep contams out.

 

[ninjadip]

There is a lot to read in here...
I need to get up to speed.
How colonized should it be before putting in a tub? I have this bag going here, should it be closer to all white before I go to the next step?

My experience is nada. I tried once before and grew mold right as pins were forming. I had the tub rh too high and going to be much better about watering this time around. But I really need to learn more about it all.

 

[tobh]

There is a lot to read in here...
I need to get up to speed.
How colonized should it be before putting in a tub? I have this bag going here, should it be closer to all white before I go to the next step?
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My experience is nada. I tried once before and grew mold right as pins were forming. I had the tub rh too high and going to be much better about watering this time around. But I really need to learn more about it all.

yeah, you want that bag to be solid white with mycelium. clean, fully colonized spawn is critical to avoiding issues when you move to spawning to substrate.

 

[ninjadip]

yeah, you want that bag to be solid white with mycelium. clean, fully colonized spawn is critical to avoiding issues when you move to spawning to substrate.

Ok, thanks! The last one I tried was about 70% I think. I wasn't sure and appreciate it.
Prolly got another few weeks to go.

 

[tobh]

Ok, thanks! The last one I tried was about 70% I think. I wasn't sure and appreciate it.
Prolly got another few weeks to go.

before harvest, yeah. You should see colonization really ramp up with how much is colonized now. Once mycelium builds its initial network, it really takes off in ideal conditions.

 

[MiGrampa]

Well, it looks like I had some gill membranes rupture and spores got released. I'm not going to worry about it since its already happened and seems like more of a cosmetic issue than anything. It happened sometime since this morning and when I got home from work. I've picked most of the mushrooms already lol.

 

[tobh]

yeah, the fuckers like to move fast when it comes to blowing their loads lol

 

[MiGrampa]

yeah, the fuckers like to move fast when it comes to blowing their loads lol

I found that out the hard way, lol.

The good news is I have shrooms lol. The bad news is its Monday and I'll have to wait for the weekend to try them.

 

[Aqua Man]

I found that out the hard way, lol.

The good news is I have shrooms lol. The bad news is its Monday and I'll have to wait for the weekend to try them.

Give en some time to dry is all… well done man… you made it looks easy.

 

[Aqua Man]

Hydrate the sub and then put back into fruiting.

 

[MiGrampa]

Give en some time to dry is all… well done man… you made it looks easy.

I've got more on the way too. KSSS is in the fruiting tub and I've got 2 rounds of pans cyans in spawn.

 

[MiGrampa]

Hydrate the sub and then put back into fruiting.

I intend to to that once I finish harvesting. The ones I left behind will be picked either later tonight or tomorrow sometime.

 

[Aqua Man]

I've got more on the way too. KSSS is in the fruiting tub and I've got 2 rounds of pans cyans in spawn.

Nice…. Im just going to case my second tub and see if i can avoids the blobs… this genetic is a pita but hopefully worth it

 

[Aqua Man]

I intend to to that once I finish harvesting. The ones I left behind will be picked either later tonight or tomorrow sometime.

After you pick soray down the cake well to hydrate it then put back into fruiting and you should get another flush. They will be ab bigger next time

 

[tobh]

Nice…. Im just going to case my second tub and see if i can avoids the blobs… this genetic is a pita but hopefully worth it

paying attention to whatever you find works. Once i get a clean culture of APE and go to fruiting, I'm likely gonna run into the same scenario.

Shitty thing about PE genetics is when you start on agar, you can't really rely on isolating from strong mycelium cultures. You gotta fruit as soon as you can from the initial germination plate, and clone from a fruit body to ensure you end up with a fruit producing isolation. They're not like a lot of other cubensis that you aim for a strong rhyzomorphic sector and you'll like end up with fruits. So, then you end up struggling with blobs, or even worse, non-fruit producing isolations.

 

[Aqua Man]

So i pulled the blobs early as im starting to see some normal pins. 169 grams wet which should be about 17g dry… a bit more than half ounce. The 2 blobs in the pics are just under and just over 45grams each. That tells me when i get this right and run them to full maturity on second and 3rd flushes i may see some over 80g or more wet. Really piss poor for a first flush but yeah had some issues with it drying out.

This and the next box are write offs but i will continue to update. Next bin will be done properly

 

[Aqua Man]

paying attention to whatever you find works. Once i get a clean culture of APE and go to fruiting, I'm likely gonna run into the same scenario.

Shitty thing about PE genetics is when you start on agar, you can't really rely on isolating from strong mycelium cultures. You gotta fruit as soon as you can from the initial germination plate, and clone from a fruit body to ensure you end up with a fruit producing isolation. They're not like a lot of other cubensis that you aim for a strong rhyzomorphic sector and you'll like end up with fruits. So, then you end up struggling with blobs, or even worse, non-fruit producing isolations.

Yeah and i found the same thing out with pan cyan. … spent 6 months isolating mycelium and then go to fruit it and nadda… tried so many different subs, temps etc… if i even do them again i will do the outdoor

 

[tobh]

Little preview of the progress. I hoped to at least have the filter box assembled tonight but at the rate I'm moving, the whole box probably won't be assembled till Wednesday evening.

First coat of polyurethane applied to what will be the outsides of the box. Debating doing two or three coats. With how expensive this plywood was, I'm looking for longevity here.

One more cut needs to be made on one of the large panels for the blower inlet, but I'll do that after the finish is cured.