All things shrooms

[MiGrampa]

Oh so you want to dry em them out somewhat quickly ?

They dry pretty easily with some air. @Aqua showed us a nice drying hack using some scrap lumber, a window screen and a box fan. I bought a dehydrator with a low heat seating of 95F ... it also blows air with the heater off so it will blow room temperature air. Mine takes about a day or so to dry out completely.

 

[tobh]

Yes, you want to get absolutely every last bit of moisture out of them as quickly as possible, otherwise they may start to rot, and the active compounds are highly susceptible to oxidization. Quicker you get the alkaloids locked in dry tissue the better

 

[Observer]

Yes, you want to get absolutely every last bit of moisture out of them as quickly as possible, otherwise they may start to rot, and the active compounds are highly susceptible to oxidization. Quicker you get the alkaloids locked in dry tissue the better

I can dry in my fridge?

It sucks the moisture out of things lol

(?)

Just curious


I'll do that rack idea posted above down the line eventually

I won't even have anything to dry, prob wait till I move to attempt fruiting something

 

[tobh]

I can dry in my fridge?

It sucks the moisture out of things lol

(?)

Just curious


I'll do that rack idea posted above down the line eventually

I won't even have anything to dry, prob wait till I move to attempt fruiting something

I've tried, it doesn't work as well as you would think.

My drying rack used to be a cardboard box with about 6" worth it damp rid in the bottom. Eventually moved up to using a Rubbermaid tote with damp rid in it.

Having a dehydrator with low temp settings would be ideal, but either the racks @Aqua Man built or some other moisture removing material works just as good, albeit marginally slower

 

[ninjadip]

I looked on Amazon. 5lb bag will run you around $19.00 +/- a bit depending on where you buy it from. I agree ... my thoughts, although affordable ... expensive for what it is. What type of stores would possibly carry it locally? Krogers maybe?

I'm debating this same scenario.

This is from the bags I buy, I don't know if I feel like sourcing the individual stuff is worth it for me as I don't have any storage space to spare.

My all in one bag source claims :

Ohio grown rye berries, Organic Coco Coir, Locally sourced alfalfa based horse manure and an organic wheat bran nitrogen supplement for larger flushes.

Our horse Manure is Sun-Leeched and composted for at least 2 years. This Manure comes from horses fed an Alfalfa-based diet from a local sourced farm near our location.

Every bag is Autoclaved at 18 PSI for 2 hours, the higher temperature and increased times lead to a lower contamination rate compared to standard 15 PSI for
1 1/2 hours.

On another note I think I'm 1 week away from some magic in the tub. Currently I'm 0--1 for successful mushroom grows, but I think I got something here.

Should I wait another week before venting? I saw Black dots of what I think is primordia this morning.

Edit, I placed substrate in tub this Sunday.

 

[Observer]

Eating the starches off the sides, it appears

 

[Stoneyluv]

It's just a cup so I used the foil as a cap/lid/seal-ish lol.

And injected spores through the foil, covered with that extra jar lid.

Haha

ahhhhh... i assumed it was a mason jar!! rock on!!!

 

[Observer]

ahhhhh... i assumed it was a mason jar!! rock on!!!

Yeah I broke a jar...or two.

Haha.

Rapid extreme temperature change

; p

 

[Observer]

Almost fully enveloped.

 

[Aqua Man]

Very handy tool here.

Bulk Mushroom Substrate Calculator

Bulk Mushroom Substrate Calculator

substratecalculator.weebly.com

 

[Observer]

"Pasteurized" this one for 4 hours at 200f.

185g rice
150? Or 152g of water

You can hear the grain "clank" against the jar, wondering if I had a gram or two too little of water, and undercooked it, and if theres enough moisture content for the mycellium.

But I will proceed regardless

I suppose you could pasteurize these jars and let them sit around for a bit first and see if any "contam" grows? -Before innoculating?

There's maybe an inch or two of uncovered rice left in little cup.

 

[tobh]

Yeah, I've done that quite often. Better to let some spawn sit for a while and confirm it's not contaminated than you waste spores.

 

[Observer]

@tobh @Aqua Man

Why couldn't you just use UV to quickly sterilize the fuck out of the jars or substrate or so?

 

[Aqua Man]

@tobh @Aqua Man

Why couldn't you just use UV to quickly sterilize the fuck out of the jars or substrate or so?

I tried with plastic petri dishes and it ruined the plastic. But you probably could to an extent. Hard to get light exposure to all sides equally and glass will filter UV so im not sure how well it would work or exposure times needed

 

[Observer]

I tried with plastic petri dishes and it ruined the plastic. But you probably could to an extent. Hard to get light exposure to all sides equally and glass will filter UV so im not sure how well it would work or exposure times needed

So, different materiels possibly

Otherwise

 

[Aqua Man]

So, different materiels possibly

Otherwise

Well i could work for some things but definitely not grain spawn in jars

 

[Observer]

Getting it down I suppose

Now to consistently replicate.

 

[Kopper1013]

So I’ve been looking at a lot of this stuff online and for LC every site seems to say “inject 1lb of your grain spawn with 1.5-2mls of our LC…” if you bought a 10ml syringe and are only inoculating 2lbs of spawn why not use 5mls in each? Or 10 mls in a 1lb? Is this a situation of more isn’t necessarily better?
In my head the more you add the quicker your mycellium will replicate and the quicker you’re grain will be inoculated?

 

[Observer]

So I’ve been looking at a lot of this stuff online and for LC every site seems to say “inject 1lb of your grain spawn with 1.5-2mls of our LC…” if you bought a 10ml syringe and are only inoculating 2lbs of spawn why not use 5mls in each? Or 10 mls in a 1lb?

Is this a situation of more isn’t necessarily better?

i think so

In my head the more you add the quicker your mycellium will replicate and the quicker you’re grain will be inoculated?

to an extent

you could put too much water content in the bag for example with too much LC/Spores

 

[tobh]

So I’ve been looking at a lot of this stuff online and for LC every site seems to say “inject 1lb of your grain spawn with 1.5-2mls of our LC…” if you bought a 10ml syringe and are only inoculating 2lbs of spawn why not use 5mls in each? Or 10 mls in a 1lb? Is this a situation of more isn’t necessarily better?
In my head the more you add the quicker your mycellium will replicate and the quicker you’re grain will be inoculated?

you could put too much water content in the bag for example with too much LC/Spores

This.

 

[Kopper1013]

So going over the 2mls would more than likely make everything to wet promoting mold or bacterial growth rather than healthy mycellium growth

 

[tobh]

Correct. Excess moisture will lead to a higher likelihood of bacterial infection

 

[Observer]

Almost enveloped.

 

[ninjadip]

Fungi that break down hardwood trees can do the same with plastic, study shows

A team of plant and molecular biologists from the University of Kelaniya and the University of Peradeniya, both in Sri Lanka, reports that many types of fungi that break down hardwood trees can also break down polyethylene, a common kind of plastic. In their study, reported in PLOS ONE, the...

phys.org

A cool branch of science I've been following about what to do with our plastic waste, turns out mushrooms could help.

Thought us mushroom peeps might like that article

 

[ninjadip]

Almost enveloped.

I'm waiting too, watching this thing take over

 

[ninjadip]

@tobh ok I have what I'm told is san Pedro. It was potted from dude so not sure what's in there other than the perlite I can see.
Any tips on how to care for my first one?

 

[tobh]

@tobh ok I have what I'm told is san Pedro. It was potted from dude so not sure what's in there other than the perlite I can see.
Any tips on how to care for my first one?

How long ago did he pot it? Also what agricultural zone are you in?

 

[ninjadip]

How long ago did he pot it? Also what agricultural zone are you in?

He potted it a week ago I believe. I'm in 6b-7a. He said it will grow like crazy outside in the summertime here.

 

[Observer]

Last bit uncovered

Growing fast.

 

[tobh]

He potted it a week ago I believe. I'm in 6b-7a. He said it will grow like crazy outside in the summertime here.

Alright, hold off on giving it any water until it's rooted. Depending how much he let the cutting callous it could be a couple weeks to a couple months. You lonely won't see much growth this season but never spring you'll be able to up pot it and start giving it fertilizer.

 

[ninjadip]

Alright, hold off on giving it any water until it's rooted. Depending how much he let the cutting callous it could be a couple weeks to a couple months. You lonely won't see much growth this season but never spring you'll be able to up pot it and start giving it fertilizer.

Really good news! I was repotting the San Pedro, not crazy about the pot he gave me, when I found out this thing has nice roots! Like 2 inches and thick. He must have got it started for me.

On another note I like watching how this spreads on the sides, day 9 I think.



Just watching and waiting, everything looks good right guys?

 

[GrumpAzz]

Really good news! I was repotting the San Pedro, not crazy about the pot he gave me, when I found out this thing has nice roots! Like 2 inches and thick. He must have got it started for me.

On another note I like watching how this spreads on the sides, day 9 I think.

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Just watching and waiting, everything looks good right guys?

I started roughly 50 San Pedro seeds just before my divorce. They were all just aliytle bitty sprout when shit hit the fan and they got neglected. Almost had my own little forest of em.

 

[ninjadip]

I started roughly 50 San Pedro seeds just before my divorce. They were all just aliytle bitty sprout when shit hit the fan and they got neglected. Almost had my own little forest of em.

Did you get to eat any of it before it hit the fan?

Just heard this on the radio this morning in relation to giving advanced notice on leaving company.

Treat your supervisors like mushrooms, feed them shit and keep them in the dark!

 

[GrumpAzz]

Did you get to eat any of it before it hit the fan?

I did not. They were only a quarter inch when it happened and were all shriveled by the time I remembered them.

Just heard this on the radio this morning in relation to giving advanced notice on leaving company.

Treat your supervisors like mushrooms, feed them shit and keep them in the dark!

That's the running joke at our shop when it comes to management and the info they decide to pass down the line.

 

[tobh]

Really good news! I was repotting the San Pedro, not crazy about the pot he gave me, when I found out this thing has nice roots! Like 2 inches and thick. He must have got it started for me.

On another note I like watching how this spreads on the sides, day 9 I think.

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Just watching and waiting, everything looks good right guys?

nice! yeah, it sounds like he wanted to make sure you had a successful starting point.

when it comes to repotting, that tends to be where most people fuck up. you gotta clean the roots off very gently and try to remove all the soil, then let the plant sit for about a week to allow any breaks or cuts you created on the roots heal up. Then you put it in its new home.

you do this because cacti are highly susceptible to pythium and other disease via their roots. Sometimes you can get away with just a quick move, but most of the time it's recommended to let em heal for a little bit.

also with san pedros, the width of the pot doesn't matter as much as the depth. they like to run deep roots.

Did you get to eat any of it before it hit the fan?

Just heard this on the radio this morning in relation to giving advanced notice on leaving company.

Treat your supervisors like mushrooms, feed them shit and keep them in the dark!

for real though. i've had companies bitch that i only gave them two weeks notice. my response has always been if the tables were turned they wouldn't give a single one of their employees any notice. any advanced notice is a courtesy, not an obligation.

 

[ninjadip]

for real though. i've had companies bitch that i only gave them two weeks notice. my response has always been if the tables were turned they wouldn't give a single one of their employees any notice. any advanced notice is a courtesy, not an obligation.

Exactly what Elliot said on the radio and I never thought about it like that. Corporate will fire you without notice, why give them notice?

It's a tough one for me, ethically... I was going to give a months notice, but maybe I should just do two weeks.

Thanks for the info on the Pedro and pots!

 

[tobh]

Exactly what Elliot said on the radio and I never thought about it like that. Corporate will fire you without notice, why give them notice?

It's a tough one for me, ethically... I was going to give a months notice, but maybe I should just do two weeks.

Thanks for the info on the Pedro and pots!

I mean, it depends on your role and seniority in that role. At my last job I was a senior software engineer and was the only one with intimate knowledge of the code base, and still only gave two weeks notice. Sure pissed off the company, but they should've not been assholes. I might've been more accommodating of making the transition easier.

The job before that, I gave no notice. Annual review turned out like shit and my manager gave me a ton of feedback that he didn't mention once over all the 1:1s for the past year, then withheld a raise and promotion, so I worked till my last Friday, stayed late so I was one of the last ones at the office, closed my laptop, left all company equipment on my desk, and bounced.

My current role, if I get to a point of leaving for another job (not really planning on that -- goal is to make this the last job I work for someone else), I might give them a month's notice. Maybe. They've been one of the best companies I've worked for so they've earned my respect but I also recognize that they'll fire me in an instant without notice (they're pretty good at blindsiding people) so they might only get the two week courtesy too.

Never forget you're just a number and are always replaceable when you're an employee. Loyalty to a company disappeared fifty years ago when the union busting and profit sharing completely shifted to the CEOs making 100x frontline employees vs the 3x that was common post WWII.

 

[Kopper1013]

How do you choose the size and shape of your fruiting box?
Are there certain things you’re ideally looking for?

 

[tobh]

How do you choose the size and shape of your fruiting box?
Are there certain things you’re ideally looking for?

Depends on what you're growing.

The basic premise is depending on genetics, you want to target different substrate depths. So psilocybes do great between 4"-6" of substrate depth when doing bulk casings. Size of container depends on the space you have available. If you're doing a shotgun fruiting chamber, something that can accommodate 9"x9" cake pans is perfect. A monotub, you can scale up to 50L units before running into issues.

Pan Cyans like a thinner substrate layer.

Oysters like logs and bags.

Lion's Mane, Shitakes, Maitakes, Reishis all like bags or logs.

Like i said, it depends.

 

[GoodShit97]

Depends on what you're growing.

The basic premise is depending on genetics, you want to target different substrate depths. So psilocybes do great between 4"-6" of substrate depth when doing bulk casings. Size of container depends on the space you have available. If you're doing a shotgun fruiting chamber, something that can accommodate 9"x9" cake pans is perfect. A monotub, you can scale up to 50L units before running into issues.

Pan Cyans like a thinner substrate layer.

Oysters like logs and bags.

Lion's Mane, Shitakes, Maitakes, Reishis all like bags or logs.

Like i said, it depends.

Im starting to think you're more of a mushroom farmer than a cannabis farmer