All things shrooms

[Observer]

Nothing compares to the LSD trips I had when I was young either. Not even close. Those were some of my favourite experiences.

That's why I preferred LSD but it seems to hurt my head/mind - cause headaches

So I wanted to give shrooms more of a chance and see the difference of something more "natural", were as LSD is synthesized from ergot alkaloids.

Plus with psilocybin + citric acid = psilocin = shorter but intense trips.

Can't be tripping balls for 24hours when have a kid around.

Just up the dosage alot more compared to LSD doses.


I had 150+ of those pyramid gel tabs at one point

Psychonauts unite, lol.

 

[GrumpAzz]

That's why I preferred LSD but it seems to hurt my head/mind - cause headaches

So I wanted to give shrooms more of a chance and see the difference of something more "natural", were as LSD is synthesized from ergot alkaloids.

Plus with psilocybin + citric acid = psilocin = shorter but intense trips.

Can't be tripping balls for 24hours when have a kid around.

Just up the dosage alot more compared to LSD doses.


I had 150+ of those pyramid gel tabs at one point

Psychonauts unite, lol.

LSD always seemed like more of a controllable trip whereas shrooms had a more controllable doseage.

Either way, I'm with ya on tripping with your kid in the picture. Wife and I had a couple grams a few weeks back and as soon as my mind drifted to my daughter, it was no longer fun. Had to get back home and relieve grandma because I just felt like a shitty dad ditching the baby for drugs...

I know that wasn't the case. We just had a "date night," but I couldn't shake that feeling.

 

[Rootsruler]

Reminds me of a story. When I was playing music in L.A. a band called White Zombie had come into town to showcase for some record labels. They booked a show opening for a band called Alice in Chains. I got to meet the guys in AIC when I was doing shows in Seattle. I went to the show and was told by the promoter that AIC couldn't do the show. I called the guitarist Jerry to find out what happened.

Apparently, one of their friends from Seattle ODed so Layne, the singer, and Sean, the drummer, decided to buy a sheet of acid and split it between themselves to deal with the grief. They were in L.A. and each one ate their half of the sheet. Layne was tripping so hard he couldn't sing. Sean went blind for 2 weeks.

 

[tobh]

That's why I preferred LSD but it seems to hurt my head/mind - cause headaches

So I wanted to give shrooms more of a chance and see the difference of something more "natural", were as LSD is synthesized from ergot alkaloids.

Plus with psilocybin + citric acid = psilocin = shorter but intense trips.

Can't be tripping balls for 24hours when have a kid around.

Just up the dosage alot more compared to LSD doses.


I had 150+ of those pyramid gel tabs at one point

Psychonauts unite, lol.

Interesting you bring up physical impacts. a friend gave me like ten tabs of blotter that she didn't want anymore because she said everyone that took it ended up with severe stomach pains the next day. the last time my lady and i tripped, i gave her a half tab on top of 1.75g in grapefruit juice (DO NOT INGEST GRAPEFRUIT JUICE IF YOU'RE ON A VEERRRRYYYY BROAD RANGE OF PRESCRIPTIONS). She too experienced the stomach pains the next day.

plus, the hardest thing about LSD today is there are so many RCs that without significant investment in testing equipment, you can only be about 90% of everything the stuff you just bought isn't, but still not be 100% sure it's what you intended to buy. Reagent testing is a crapshoot, unfortunately, and an expensive one at that.

LSD always seemed like more of a controllable trip whereas shrooms had a more controllable doseage.

Either way, I'm with ya on tripping with your kid in the picture. Wife and I had a couple grams a few weeks back and as soon as my mind drifted to my daughter, it was no longer fun. Had to get back home and relieve grandma because I just felt like a shitty dad ditching the baby for drugs...

I know that wasn't the case. We just had a "date night," but I couldn't shake that feeling.

Same. That's why the lady and I stopped using date nights to roll. While MDMA was helpful in a lot of ways during that period of time, it still made for some irresponsible feelings and a bit of self hatred. Mind you we were never the type to drop a point or two and go partying, our rolls were more therapeutic in that we lay out a shit ton of blankets and air mattresses, turn on some crazy visual shit on the tv, and some deep house or deep techno and just process all the stresses and pains of parenthood as a couple. Still didn't change the fact that even in something that was, in essence, an act of self care that we did responsibly by having the kids stay with the grandparents for the night (which they all love to do anyways) and we did a thorough cleaning of the house before retrieving the kids in the morning, it still felt like we weren't doing right by the kids. So, we've knocked that off.

Reminds me of a story. When I was playing music in L.A. a band called White Zombie had come into town to showcase for some record labels. They booked a show opening for a band called Alice in Chains. I got to meet the guys in AIC when I was doing shows in Seattle. I went to the show and was told by the promoter that AIC couldn't do the show. I called the guitarist Jerry to find out what happened.

Apparently, one of their friends from Seattle ODed so Layne, the singer, and Sean, the drummer, decided to buy a sheet of acid and split it between themselves to deal with the grief. They were in L.A. and each one ate their half of the sheet. Layne was tripping so hard he couldn't sing. Sean went blind for 2 weeks.

I'm surprised neither of them ended up falling into a catatonic state or having a psychotic break. Neither of which is common, but neither is someone taking 75mg of LSD lol

 

[MiGrampa]

Interesting you bring up physical impacts. a friend gave me like ten tabs of blotter that she didn't want anymore because she said everyone that took it ended up with severe stomach pains the next day. the last time my lady and i tripped, i gave her a half tab on top of 1.75g in grapefruit juice (DO NOT INGEST GRAPEFRUIT JUICE IF YOU'RE ON A VEERRRRYYYY BROAD RANGE OF PRESCRIPTIONS). She too experienced the stomach pains the next day.

plus, the hardest thing about LSD today is there are so many RCs that without significant investment in testing equipment, you can only be about 90% of everything the stuff you just bought isn't, but still not be 100% sure it's what you intended to buy. Reagent testing is a crapshoot, unfortunately, and an expensive one at that.

Same. That's why the lady and I stopped using date nights to roll. While MDMA was helpful in a lot of ways during that period of time, it still made for some irresponsible feelings and a bit of self hatred. Mind you we were never the type to drop a point or two and go partying, our rolls were more therapeutic in that we lay out a shit ton of blankets and air mattresses, turn on some crazy visual shit on the tv, and some deep house or deep techno and just process all the stresses and pains of parenthood as a couple. Still didn't change the fact that even in something that was, in essence, an act of self care that we did responsibly by having the kids stay with the grandparents for the night (which they all love to do anyways) and we did a thorough cleaning of the house before retrieving the kids in the morning, it still felt like we weren't doing right by the kids. So, we've knocked that off.

I'm surprised neither of them ended up falling into a catatonic state or having a psychotic break. Neither of which is common, but neither is someone taking 75mg of LSD lol

LSD would upset my stomach even back in the 80's so there may just be something about the drug that causes stomach pains. It was real sharp stabbing pain at times. We were always told it was a sign it had been cut with something ... like strychnine ...

 

[growsinse79]

LSD would upset my stomach even back in the 80's so there may just be something about the drug that causes stomach pains. It was real sharp stabbing pain at times. We were always told it was a sign it had been cut with something ... like strychnine ...

LOL I remember taking acid and maylox cocktails in the 80s. The 70s acid didn't do that.

 

[tobh]

LSD would upset my stomach even back in the 80's so there may just be something about the drug that causes stomach pains. It was real sharp stabbing pain at times. We were always told it was a sign it had been cut with something ... like strychnine ...

yeah, i've heard horror stories about strychnine. and the paraquat issues associated with imported Mexican weed in the late 70s and early 80s. the old timer that taught me how to play guitar used to tell me about all that shit. the feds were outright trying to kill y'all man lol

 

[Observer]

LSD would upset my stomach even back in the 80's so there may just be something about the drug that causes stomach pains. It was real sharp stabbing pain at times. We were always told it was a sign it had been cut with something ... like strychnine ...

There is serotonin receptors in our stomachs.

So I think some of the discomfort is from that , so I take ginger.


But yeah that was part of my problem with them too tobh, no idea if it's an RC or the real deal.

I've done 1p-LSD (rc) would try that again.

 

[Observer]

LSD always seemed like more of a controllable trip whereas shrooms had a more controllable doseage.

Either way, I'm with ya on tripping with your kid in the picture. Wife and I had a couple grams a few weeks back and as soon as my mind drifted to my daughter, it was no longer fun. Had to get back home and relieve grandma because I just felt like a shitty dad ditching the baby for drugs...

I know that wasn't the case. We just had a "date night," but I couldn't shake that feeling.

That's in the back of my mind too.

 

[Observer]

Looks like some healthy mycellium is developing.

 

[tobh]

Looks like some healthy mycellium is developing.

good healthy rhizomorphic growth going bud!

 

[Observer]

Interesting you bring up physical impacts. a friend gave me like ten tabs of blotter that she didn't want anymore because she said everyone that took it ended up with severe stomach pains the next day. the last time my lady and i tripped, i gave her a half tab on top of 1.75g in grapefruit juice (DO NOT INGEST GRAPEFRUIT JUICE IF YOU'RE ON A VEERRRRYYYY BROAD RANGE OF PRESCRIPTIONS). She too experienced the stomach pains the next day.

plus, the hardest thing about LSD today is there are so many RCs that without significant investment in testing equipment, you can only be about 90% of everything the stuff you just bought isn't, but still not be 100% sure it's what you intended to buy. Reagent testing is a crapshoot, unfortunately, and an expensive one at that.

Same. That's why the lady and I stopped using date nights to roll. While MDMA was helpful in a lot of ways during that period of time, it still made for some irresponsible feelings and a bit of self hatred. Mind you we were never the type to drop a point or two and go partying, our rolls were more therapeutic in that we lay out a shit ton of blankets and air mattresses, turn on some crazy visual shit on the tv, and some deep house or deep techno and just process all the stresses and pains of parenthood as a couple. Still didn't change the fact that even in something that was, in essence, an act of self care that we did responsibly by having the kids stay with the grandparents for the night (which they all love to do anyways) and we did a thorough cleaning of the house before retrieving the kids in the morning, it still felt like we weren't doing right by the kids. So, we've knocked that off.

I'm surprised neither of them ended up falling into a catatonic state or having a psychotic break. Neither of which is common, but neither is someone taking 75mg of LSD lol

Man 75mg of acid??

I consumed 1mg once, I loved it but holy shit was that an intense trip, house was breathing with me, the demons were outside wanting to get at us, lol.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Man 75mg of acid??

I consumed 1mg once, I loved it but holy shit was that an intense trip, house was breathing with me, the demons were outside wanting to get at us, lol.

At least you knew you were breathing, bro. My best/worst trips always had me thinking I had died because I couldn't tell whether or not I was breathing. It always started with an itch followed by "I can't move my foot. I can't move my leg. I'M NOT FUCKIN BREATHING"

Those death trips really set your mind straight, albeit, the next day.

 

[Observer]

At least you knew you were breathing, bro. My best/worst trips always had me thinking I had died because I couldn't tell whether or not I was breathing. It always started with an itch followed by "I can't move my foot. I can't move my leg. I'M NOT FUCKIN BREATHING"

Those death trips really set your mind straight, albeit, the next day.

I've had some baaaad trips but it's a head game.

 

[tobh]

At least you knew you were breathing, bro. My best/worst trips always had me thinking I had died because I couldn't tell whether or not I was breathing. It always started with an itch followed by "I can't move my foot. I can't move my leg. I'M NOT FUCKIN BREATHING"

Those death trips really set your mind straight, albeit, the next day.

Fuckin a right. That's a primary reason I won't touch DMT anymore. Shit is way too intense and I hate that plummeting feeling. I don't even really like mushroom trips anymore, too many bad experience on Psilocybe Cubensis.

 

[GoodShit97]

Fuckin a right. That's a primary reason I won't touch DMT anymore. Shit is way too intense and I hate that plummeting feeling. I don't even really like mushroom trips anymore, too many bad experience on Psilocybe Cubensis.

Always wanted to try DMT, had the chance once but i was getting ready for a 7 hr road trip and didnt think that was the prime time to try something new lol.

 

[tobh]

Always wanted to try DMT, had the chance once but i was getting ready for a 7 hr road trip and didnt think that was the prime time to try something new lol.

Probably a good call. The afterglow can be pretty intense. I certainly wouldn't be caught driving after doing it, at least not until the next day.

 

[GoodShit97]

Probably a good call. The afterglow can be pretty intense. I certainly wouldn't be caught driving after doing it, at least not until the next day.

Yep! ive never driven on anything but weed and thatll just be what it is forever.
My good time is never worth someone elses life so i stay put once ive taken something.
Plus i couldnt imagine trying to drive on that shit.
My sister in law got arrested a while back for driving on LSD... god damn psycho she is.

 

[Observer]

Always wanted to try DMT, had the chance once but i was getting ready for a 7 hr road trip and didnt think that was the prime time to try something new lol.

I fuckin loved it.

 

[GrumpAzz]

I fuckin loved it.

Same. Except a little Dobby looking motherfucker convinced me to quit smoking. I'm not going back there until I give up nicotine or he's gonna be pissed.

 

[Observer]

Same. Except a little Dobby looking motherfucker convinced me to quit smoking. I'm not going back there until I give up nicotine or he's gonna be pissed.

Lmao

 

[tobh]

Yep! ive never driven on anything but weed and thatll just be what it is forever.
My good time is never worth someone elses life so i stay put once ive taken something.
Plus i couldnt imagine trying to drive on that shit.
My sister in law got arrested a while back for driving on LSD... god damn psycho she is.

Fuck that's madness. I accidentally drove on shrooms one time, but that's because I mistook that twilight period at the end of a trip for being done done, and of course, the trip came back on about halfway home. Luckily didn't cross paths with any LEO, which was rare for the area I was in. Swore I'd never do that shit again. I just had to commit, though, as it was like that scene in fear and loathing where stopping nor turning around was an option.

 

[ninjadip]

Fuck that's madness. I accidentally drove on shrooms one time, but that's because I mistook that twilight period at the end of a trip for being done done, and of course, the trip came back on about halfway home. Luckily didn't cross paths with any LEO, which was rare for the area I was in. Swore I'd never do that shit again. I just had to commit, though, as it was like that scene in fear and loathing where stopping nor turning around was an option.

i didn't know that was a normal thing, shit happened to me and i did run into the LEO. thankfully i wasn't peaking like in fear and loathing, that scene with the cop is intense for sure!

reminds me of when i went to go drive my friend home after tripping, i thought i was done, or 'done enough' lol.... almost instantly, or so it felt, right when go to leave town we end up in a checkpoint.

officer asks me to do the alphabet starting with some random letter instead of 'A'... i could not do it, instantly got told to pull over. so we are in the car, not shitting bricks too much cause i know i only had one beer if they want to do a breathalizer.

a different officer comes to the car, i am ready to blow but she doesn't even give me a breathalizer. instead asks me to follow her pen left to right with my eyes only and not move my head. halfway into it i think she is just fucking with me moving that shit so far off my peripheral and i'm still following it, i think i did well cause she told me i could go without getting out of the car or a breathalizer, but i'm sure my eyes looked funny cause it felt like i was tripping again right in the middle of all this

 

[MDK]

Lotta backroads around here I've driven on everything I've probably ever been on. I'm that sumbitch that knows better but can lose all better judgment if I get twisted enough.

Only things I think I never did was fetty, dmt, and krokadil lol

Thought I was doing coke on a float trip, hit a couple lines and they burned to snort I instantly knew it was meth...said to the guy sharing it yo this is meth..he's like nah its speedball...so that's how I did H once on accident.

Real careful what I take from others ever since

 

[GrumpAzz]

My first solo acid trip I put the top down on my little beamer and hit the mountain roads around Taft California. Literally the only time in my life that I've screamed in excitement.

Shrooms always makes me feel like there's something wrong with my ride though... like the rear tires are flat or something. Like driving a boat.

 

[Observer]

My first solo acid trip I put the top down on my little beamer and hit the mountain roads around Taft California. Literally the only time in my life that I've screamed in excitement.

Shrooms always makes me feel like there's something wrong with my ride though... like the rear tires are flat or something. Like driving a boat.

I've driven a few times, on the come down though, couldn't even do it in the middle of one if I wanted to.

 

[tobh]

Lotta backroads around here I've driven on everything I've probably ever been on. I'm that sumbitch that knows better but can lose all better judgment if I get twisted enough.

Only things I think I never did was fetty, dmt, and krokadil lol

Thought I was doing coke on a float trip, hit a couple lines and they burned to snort I instantly knew it was meth...said to the guy sharing it yo this is meth..he's like nah its speedball...so that's how I did H once on accident.

Real careful what I take from others ever since

fuck, that's as bad as the one time i did ketamine. thought it was blow. haah boy was i wrong. i quit trusting white powders after that.

 

[MDK]

fuck, that's as bad as the one time i did ketamine. thought it was blow. haah boy was i wrong. i quit trusting white powders after that.

I did that stuff about 4 or 5 times in my early 20s...my friend had a house party and some guy just shows up selling K and then passed out and my friend just took all his shit...went to a cardinals baseball game couple days later and did some at the game with him...the following hour was weird, everything looked like an oil pastel piece. Some guy behind us got way too drunk and started barfing and the crowd started throwing popcorn and empty cups at him...that was just like a random Thursday in my youth haha . I dabbled, never got addicted to anything past weed...all my other friends ended up in rehab. Been weed only over 10 years now

 

[tobh]

I did that stuff about 4 or 5 times in my early 20s...my friend had a house party and some guy just shows up selling K and then passed out and my friend just took all his shit...went to a cardinals baseball game couple days later and did some at the game with him...the following hour was weird, everything looked like an oil pastel piece. Some guy behind us got way too drunk and started barfing and the crowd started throwing popcorn and empty cups at him...that was just like a random Thursday in my youth haha . I dabbled, never got addicted to anything past weed...all my other friends ended up in rehab. Been weed only over 10 years now

same situation -- dude showed up with a big bag of K, and was breaking out lines for everyone. i was shitfaced drunk and thought, "shit, i could use some sober-me-up sugar," and did a rail that was a bit more than I should've taken. proceeded to get stuck on a chair staring at this tapestry my buddy had on the wall with om symbols on it, tripping balls, thinking, "well, fuck dumbass. what a pathetic way to die after years of abusing drugs." obviously i survived but after that night unless i paid for it i haven't done anything anyone has to offer. sure scared tf outta myself lol

 

[Observer]

Oh shit, moving quickly.

Bottom half is getting consumed upon about, not too much longer....

I suppose I just tear the bitch open and see what happens, maybe put it in a tote up there to control/maintain some RH?

Keep It Sterile Stupid.

 

[Observer]

same situation -- dude showed up with a big bag of K, and was breaking out lines for everyone. i was shitfaced drunk and thought, "shit, i could use some sober-me-up sugar," and did a rail that was a bit more than I should've taken. proceeded to get stuck on a chair staring at this tapestry my buddy had on the wall with om symbols on it, tripping balls, thinking, "well, fuck dumbass. what a pathetic way to die after years of abusing drugs." obviously i survived but after that night unless i paid for it i haven't done anything anyone has to offer. sure scared tf outta myself lol

Lmao you fuckin scared your self straight thinking it was fucking cocaine so you railed fucking KETAMINE? A horse tranq.

Nice.

On the other hand, I've been itching to try that one for years now lol

I love experimenting.

 

[tobh]

Lmao you fuckin scared your self straight thinking it was fucking cocaine so you railed fucking KETAMINE? A horse tranq.

Nice.

On the other hand, I've been itching to try that one for years now lol

I love experimenting.

not really straight but sure was a wake up call. i wasn't exactly in the best mental health at that point, either, so in a sense it was a very logical decision. on the other hand, i'm fuckin glad it wasn't heroin or some other opiate or benzo. things could've gone a whole other direction quickly.

would i recommend trying it? fuck yes. it has some amazing benefits for depression and PTSD and can offer some very rapid improvements in mental health if used in the right setting. should it be done while intoxicated on anything else? probably not.

 

[ninjadip]

Finally got some little guys coming up, I think these are blue meanies. Look like little aborts. I'm really hoping the next week the big ones will start coming out

Is that white stuff on top of the aborts bad?

 

[tobh]

Finally got some little guys coming up, I think these are blue meanies. Look like little aborts. I'm really hoping the next week the big ones will start coming out

Is that white stuff on top of the aborts bad?View attachment 23297

nah, that's normal. just a little bit of mycelium is all. as the fruit bodies get bigger, those little patches will dissipate unless they abort completely, in which case the caps will just turn super dark.

 

[ninjadip]

nah, that's normal. just a little bit of mycelium is all. as the fruit bodies get bigger, those little patches will dissipate unless they abort completely, in which case the caps will just turn super dark.

Thank you!

Btw is 75f better than 70 for cubenesis? The air in the tub is 73 at the top now, humidity 90-95.

I have a controller controlling a reptile fogger and a heating mat if < 70f. Just wondering the best settings I can set the controller to.

 

[tobh]

Thank you!

Btw is 75f better than 70 for cubenesis? The air in the tub is 73 at the top now, humidity 90-95.

I have a controller controlling a reptile fogger and a heating mat if < 70f. Just wondering the best settings I can set the controller to.

i've never monitored temps all that closely, tbh. cubensis doesn't really give a shit about the temps. it's not nearly as temperamental as more exotic varieties, active or otherwise.

that being said, you're fine where you're at. let er rip!

 

[ninjadip]

i've never monitored temps all that closely, tbh. cubensis doesn't really give a shit about the temps. it's not nearly as temperamental as more exotic varieties, active or otherwise.

that being said, you're fine where you're at. let er rip!

Btw do you use a casing layer and if so what is your mix?

 

[tobh]

Btw do you use a casing layer and if so what is your mix?

i've also never used casing layers with cubensis. IMO they aren't required for that variety. when i was running larger operations, it also helped keep costs down as i was basically running turn and burn operations on multiple monotubs, so as soon as the third flush was pulled from a tub, it was reset. casing would've just added to the workload and costs.

to answer your mix question, you want to use something the mycelium won't colonize. best way to do that is use a media that's more basic than the substrate. pan cyan growers talk a lot about using a 50/50 mix of vermiculite and peat moss with some lime added to raise the pH to ~8.0. this seems to be a reasonable mix that would perform for cubensis too, and only serves to provide moisture to the fruit bodies.

 

[ninjadip]

Alright so now they are getting bigger, but what makes the cap split like this? Internet told me low humidity so I bumped it from 90-95 to 95-98, but have a feeling it's not that.

 

[Aqua Man]

Alright so now they are getting bigger, but what makes the cap split like this? Internet told me low humidity so I bumped it from 90-95 to 95-98, but have a feeling it's not that.

View attachment 24134

Humidity doesn’t look to low to me… you have fuzzy feet. Some mutations or genetics can be more prone. Typically it lower humidity or an environmental issue like temp but in some cases its just genetics.

Are you misting still? If so i would stop. Until you pick these then give it a good one before the next flush