All things shrooms

[Observer]

i really liked the psilocybin that was extracted via menthol. @tobh

it felt so clean, hit nearly instantaneously

looked akin to a cannabis extract; wax.

 

[Observer]

god forbid we educate our selfs against the powers that be

 

[tobh]

besides the other precursors, would it not be easier to grow wheat and it get infected?

No, claviceps is incredibly dangerous to handle. Just touching it can result in rapid onset of gangrene. Plus, producing enough volume to have enough alkaloids to make synthesis a worthwhile endeavor would be a massive chore. That's why other synthesis processes have been developed, and is a major contributing factor in the massive surge in other research chemicals being identified.

 

[Observer]

No, claviceps is incredibly dangerous to handle. Just touching it can result in rapid onset of gangrene. Plus, producing enough volume to have enough alkaloids to make synthesis a worthwhile endeavor would be a massive chore. That's why other synthesis processes have been developed, and is a major contributing factor in the massive surge in other research chemicals being identified.

oh, haha.

ok thanks.

 

[Observer]

can one turn LSA into LSD ?, or the other developed processes make more sense to do ?

 

[tobh]

Not easily, no. Especially making the transition to LSD-25. LSA is molecularly an almost completely different compound.

 

[Observer]

thanks for passing along knowledge

 

[Observer]

Got a lot to learn about chemistry, but I love it

very fascinating

 

[tobh]

Hell yeah. Chemistry is alchemy man. It's wild. One of my favorite physical sciences.

 

[Zen_seeker]

These are the videos I show everyone that wants to get started. Just simple everyday items with simple terminology. Sporeworks, Willy Myco, Mushroom Man Mycology those are trusted vendors, I’ve used others and end up back with one of the three. Just for when or if you want to start the journey.

Complete Broke Boy Tek Guide

This playlist will show you how to grow from start to finish from the Broke Boy Tek

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Watched two or three. Nice. Think these are helpful. I like how they are short and all 9 progress in order.

 

[Zen_seeker]

It seems a lot of us here have similar issues and interest.

ADD/ADHD, dyslexia, major depression, few others.

My mother didn’t like me on Ritalin, so she said, but as a single mom with kids I think cost had something to do with it as well.

It took years, tears, trial and error before I found a way to work through it on my own. Reading was a big help. I’d skip school and go read in the library all day or get a book and go read in the nature trails. (Nice ravines linked together like wild parks.)

Key was having good teachers who knew how to teach me. Once I understood something I could run with it. I also had to find it interesting. Asshole teachers would try to make me learn their way. Good teachers took the time to learn how to reach me.

Tests were 50/50. Studying was hard if I didn’t like a subject. Id ace things I liked like architecture and mechanical drafting. As an example I liked trigonometry and aced it. Didn’t like mixing numbers and letters so algebra was frustrating. But one day I did lsd at school and aced a math test. It was easy. I was the first finished and the teacher thought I cheated but couldn’t prove it. I didn’t even know we had a test coming. Was planning to skip class but couldn’t get away. Lol

Unfortunately once I get really good at something I tend to get bored and move on/loose interest. A few hobbies I’ll pick up again after years while others I’ve never cared to try again.

Alcohol was a tool for a long time. Slow my mind. Help with sleep. Easy to get. But hard on the body. Mushrooms and LSD were the two best drugs for everything else. Just hard to find/get.

Up until I retired a few years ago I still had a journal beside my bed. It can take hours to fall to sleep until my mind is ready. And if I have a problem or issues to resolve I can wake up with solutions or ideas and write them down. That worked for decades. Although some notes never did make any sense. Lol

Patterns, mazes, puzzles most are obvious or easy. But I’m a visual learner. Reading about it then watching the process is best. Computers opened up a whole new world. I knew if I got bored of one aspect I could just change lanes and go down a branching path. That worked for a long time.

These days something is broken. Either from a car accident, got to old, or some other reason. I can no longer keep focus especially for long term issues.

I’m hoping mushrooms can again help me to quiet things and control thoughts. Plus it’s a fun high. A happy high.

Just my $0.02.

 

[Aqua Man]

It seems a lot of us here have similar issues and interest.

ADD/ADHD, dyslexia, major depression, few others.

My mother didn’t like me on Ritalin, so she said, but as a single mom with kids I think cost had something to do with it as well.

It took years, tears, trial and error before I found a way to work through it on my own. Reading was a big help. I’d skip school and go read in the library all day or get a book and go read in the nature trails. (Nice ravines linked together like wild parks.)

Key was having good teachers who knew how to teach me. Once I understood something I could run with it. I also had to find it interesting. Asshole teachers would try to make me learn their way. Good teachers took the time to learn how to reach me.

Tests were 50/50. Studying was hard if I didn’t like a subject. Id ace things I liked like architecture and mechanical drafting. As an example I liked trigonometry and aced it. Didn’t like mixing numbers and letters so algebra was frustrating. But one day I did lsd at school and aced a math test. It was easy. I was the first finished and the teacher thought I cheated but couldn’t prove it. I didn’t even know we had a test coming. Was planning to skip class but couldn’t get away. Lol

Unfortunately once I get really good at something I tend to get bored and move on/loose interest. A few hobbies I’ll pick up again after years while others I’ve never cared to try again.

Alcohol was a tool for a long time. Slow my mind. Help with sleep. Easy to get. But hard on the body. Mushrooms and LSD were the two best drugs for everything else. Just hard to find/get.

Up until I retired a few years ago I still had a journal beside my bed. It can take hours to fall to sleep until my mind is ready. And if I have a problem or issues to resolve I can wake up with solutions or ideas and write them down. That worked for decades. Although some notes never did make any sense. Lol

Patterns, mazes, puzzles most are obvious or easy. But I’m a visual learner. Reading about it then watching the process is best. Computers opened up a whole new world. I knew if I got bored of one aspect I could just change lanes and go down a branching path. That worked for a long time.

These days something is broken. Either from a car accident, got to old, or some other reason. I can no longer keep focus especially for long term issues.

I’m hoping mushrooms can again help me to quiet things and control thoughts. Plus it’s a fun high. A happy high.

Just my $0.02.

Its funny how there are so many similarities between people like this.

To me it’s a perfect example of challenging what is ACTUALLY NORMAL. To me the concept of normal as we are taught is absurd.

Diversity is what drives evolution and its only normal to accept there is no such thing as normal. If that makes any sense to you all.

Just my thoughts

 

[tobh]

The modern, public education system was never designed to deal with neurodivergent children, or any children above or below the median. I would say since at least the 70s (when my brother went through primary school) it's been a problem of whether the child fits within a small margin of competency and capability that determined their academic success.

Then, good ol Bush Jr (not him specifically, but he did sign the No Child Left Behind Act) decided "we can't leave any children behind!" and right fucked the ship even more, at least in the US. So instead of a child the might need a little extra help because of a learning disability being supported properly, or a child with exceptional intelligence being given guardrails to direct their experimentation and exploration, every child became a square that needed smashed into a round hole.

Some of it may be by design, though. The reality is the children that didn't fall into that median group have higher statistical chances of falling into addiction and crime in their adult lives, and eventually become wards of the state. Sometimes they manage to find success and stability in their lives but that comes on a delayed timeline so they still end up lagging behind their peers. Rarely they strike gold early on and become wildly successful.

That's what makes this current time in history so exciting, though. The fact that real research is being performed with the likes of MDMA, Ketamine, and Psilocybin means we are on the verge of finding real solutions for mental illness and neurodivergence. We'll be able to help people understand themselves and their place in the world more clearly, and unlock pathways for them to be self-sufficient, healthy, and potentially even happy. The research that's happened with alcoholics and all three of those substances is an excellent example because a lot of alcoholics have that same problem -- can't shut their brain off so they drink, not realizing (at least at first) that alcohol is a self-defeating self medication because all the stress and anxiety is gonna be back in the morning since the GABA receptors have taken a massive beating and aren't ready for the flood of GABA re-entering the bloodstream.

I could go on and on about this shit, though. Mushrooms have the potential to really change human history and quality of life on so many levels. Lion's Mane for its neuroprotective and neuroregenerative properties. Reishi for its cancer prevention and general wellness. Maitake for its immunity boosting. Stropharia for its environmental cleanup capabilities. Cordyceps for its countless uses. And some, for the way they touch the mind and the soul, to remove the veil of consciousness and allow a person to see their darkness and wrestle with it; overcome it.

 

[GoodShit97]

To me it’s a perfect example of challenging what is ACTUALLY NORMAL. To me the concept of normal as we are taught is absurd.

Diversity is what drives evolution and its only normal to accept there is no such thing as normal. If that makes any sense to you all.

Dude, this is so well said and accurate.
I see the people society terms "normal" are the furthest from "normal" lol

 

[SpectrumFarms]

Not easily, no. Especially making the transition to LSD-25. LSA is molecularly an almost completely different compound.

Didn’t know you were a chemistry guy too!!
I love extracting my own meds from all the fun plants, trees and cacti nature offers.

 

[SpectrumFarms]

yea i need a "reset" too

Ever had a breakthrough?

 

[tobh]

Didn’t know you were a chemistry guy too!!
I love extracting my own meds from all the fun plants, trees and cacti nature offers.

It was one of the only subjects that I engaged with in school, and have always been fascinated by it. Definitely not an expert by any means but can handle some basic extractions and reactions without maiming or killing myself haha. Have actually considered picking up some night classes in organic chem at the local community college just to refresh my memory and maybe pick up some new tricks along the way. In the interim i read a lot of whitepapers on various synthesis processes and keep a pulse on what the unofficial researchers are up to.

 

[Observer]

Ever had a breakthrough?

a few times i think? kind of hard to answer this

you learn wisdom and go to the next levels

ive seen some shit and communicated with something else, a few times.

like communicating with a universal consciousness too, "information downloads"


went through 5 DMT carts in 3 months, itching to get another one and dive in again, even deeper.
have you done DMT?


when i have shrooms i usually take 7gs+ and make teas.
ive done a 14g+ tea too

when i take tabs usually 3 or 4+ at a time, took 7 at once before, the house was breathing with me and demons outside all over the place.
and some weird shit happened with a lamp in the room.

it popped like it broke but it came back on. 0 issues ever before or after.

lol


ive tripped a bunchhhhhhhhh

 

[Observer]

Didn’t know you were a chemistry guy too!!
I love extracting my own meds from all the fun plants, trees and cacti nature offers.

yup im trying to get to that level too

 

[Observer]

really gotta write things down and record next time im in deep

theres alot that happens and a lot of information just streams to you, when in it, on DMT

those trips are "explosive"

body can just start dancing on its own.

id love to try IV way, they are getting it to last longer in lab settings, up to an hou
@SpectrumFarms

 

[Observer]

really gotta write things down and record next time im in deep

theres alot that happens and a lot of information just streams to you, when in it, on DMT

those trips are "explosive"

body can just start dancing on its own.

id love to try IV way, they are getting it to last longer in lab settings, up to an hou
@SpectrumFarms

i had a notepad for this reason i dont know what happened to it

i like to push my mind.

 

[Observer]

Ever had a breakthrough?

ive had my world / cosmic view changed in just a few months from DMT.

 

[tobh]

@Aqua Man @SpectrumFarms have y'all ever monitored for RH swings in your setups? Have you noticed any optimal swing over a given time period? Eg, 10% drop over an hour, or whatever? Or just aim for a target of 85%+ constant?

Debating geeking out a bit as I'm still working on dialing in the Martha, but we all know where THAT goes with cannabis lol

 

[Aqua Man]

@Aqua Man @SpectrumFarms have y'all ever monitored for RH swings in your setups? Have you noticed any optimal swing over a given time period? Eg, 10% drop over an hour, or whatever? Or just aim for a target of 85%+ constant?

Debating geeking out a bit as I'm still working on dialing in the Martha, but we all know where THAT goes with cannabis lol

I have not. Only really worked with various tub sizes. One day i will upgrade to a room i think

 

[SpectrumFarms]

@Aqua Man @SpectrumFarms have y'all ever monitored for RH swings in your setups? Have you noticed any optimal swing over a given time period? Eg, 10% drop over an hour, or whatever? Or just aim for a target of 85%+ constant?

Debating geeking out a bit as I'm still working on dialing in the Martha, but we all know where THAT goes with cannabis lol

I have not ever experimented with RH swings with fungi. I do check my RH in the tubs daily through the summer months my house stays around 40-42% RH with the AC on. I have always just maintained a constant of 90-91% I am to keep the humidity at same moisture level as the fruits themselves. I haven’t upgraded much over the years I still use 4, 12qt tubs and place all four in one large 160qt tub for fruiting.

 

[Zen_seeker]

My grandkids, in Quebec now, seemed to have inherited my issues. All three, 3 to 11, are gifted but are having trouble getting along with others and authority.

I helped my daughter by telling her who to complain to about the school and how they were treating the kids. Now two are in advanced classes and have social workers that they see. Much better but the school still tries to push back and make the parents do their job.

Middle ones being tested now for another thing. Parents have to pay for this test? He’s autistic but already functions at an 18 year old level, he’s six I think. Gets suspended occasionally for arguing with his teachers. After hearing what one argument was about it sounds like teachers want him to go play/be a six year old but he wants to do other activities.

We’ll see what comes out of this process. I don’t know the province’s systems or programs but I’m interested to hear what comes out of it.

 

[SpectrumFarms]

besides the other precursors, would it not be easier to grow wheat and it get infected? wondered about that, having some wheat around in a backyard and ???


i wanna grow my own hostilis and keep that around

There’s a farm in Florida that sell saplings for $40. There are lots of other plants that are N,N DMT rich. Pharlaris grass is a common one that grows almost everywhere. Ever spend anytime over on the Nexus? Insane amounts of good info there. If you’re interested in ergot checkout Uncle Fester’s LSD book from the 90s.

 

[Observer]

There’s a farm in Florida that sell saplings for $40. There are lots of other plants that are N,N DMT rich. Pharlaris grass is a common one that grows almost everywhere. Ever spend anytime over on the Nexus? Insane amounts of good info there. If you’re interested in ergot checkout Uncle Fester’s LSD book from the 90s.

Heard of phalaris grass, wasn't sure if it'd be worth it

Briefly on nexus

 

[Observer]

There’s a farm in Florida that sell saplings for $40. There are lots of other plants that are N,N DMT rich. Pharlaris grass is a common one that grows almost everywhere. Ever spend anytime over on the Nexus? Insane amounts of good info there. If you’re interested in ergot checkout Uncle Fester’s LSD book from the 90s.

Heard of phalaris grass, wasn't sure if it'd be worthwhile

Briefly on nexus

So I guess to do dmt intravenously I could dissolve DMT Crystals into a saline solution and inject?

 

[Observer]

I gotta try the IV way

IV DMT Revisited - The Psychedelic Experience - Shroomery Message Board

It was almost a year ago that I swore I would never IV DMT again. Do to my curiousity to penetrate further I ignored the reasons I swore off IVing this powerful psychedelic. Last night: Sweat

www.shroomery.org

 

[SpectrumFarms]

Heard of phalaris grass, wasn't sure if it'd be worthwhile

Briefly on nexus

So I guess to do dmt intravenously I could dissolve DMT Crystals into a saline solution and inject?

If you have extremely clean lab made DMT then yes. At home extraction will never be pure enough in my opinion to go the IV route. You’d need that good good like Rick Strassman.

 

[Aqua Man]

Heard of phalaris grass, wasn't sure if it'd be worthwhile

Briefly on nexus

So I guess to do dmt intravenously I could dissolve DMT Crystals into a saline solution and inject?

Dude DO NOT DO THIS

 

[Aqua Man]

Really lets not even have this discussion on here. intravenous USE OF ANY KIND SHOULD ONLY BE DONE BY MEDICALLY TRAINED PERSONS IN A MEDICAL FACILITY

 

[tobh]

I second what has been said -- IV drug use without adequate training and purity of product is a massive health and safety risk, not to mention a monumental deviation from the appropriate topics of discussion for this forum.

Other forums such as Blue Light and Shroomery would be better served for such discussion as they're locked down a bit more tightly with regards to search engine scraping and non-member access.

 

[Observer]

If you have extremely clean lab made DMT then yes. At home extraction will never be pure enough in my opinion to go the IV route. You’d need that good good like Rick Strassman.

Damn how did this dude get his IV dmt lol

 

[Observer]

Alright I'll keep that to shroomery.

 

[SSHZ]

Anyone ever hear of these guys?

'Boomr Bin' Monotubs & Monotub Kits | Grow Mushrooms

Start growing your own dung-loving edible or medicinal mushrooms indoors! Our beginner-friendly monotub kit makes mushroom growing easy. Created by mycologists, this complete starter kit is equipped with everything you need to grow mushrooms at home. (All that's required is a spore syringe or...

northspore.com

 

[tobh]

yeah, Northspore will hobby tax you to death. their spawn is also unreliable. my buddy and myself have received several shipments of master mix spawn that contaminated within two days of receipt.

i recommend these guys for spawn https://www.fieldforest.net/

build your own monotubs, they're cheap and easy.

 

[SpectrumFarms]

Damn how did this dude get his IV dmt lol

Last thing I’ll say about the subject. He is a doctor that got it from a lab for clinical trials in the 90s. His book is called The Spirit Molecule it’s well worth the read.

 

[Aqua Man]

Anyone ever hear of these guys?

'Boomr Bin' Monotubs & Monotub Kits | Grow Mushrooms

Start growing your own dung-loving edible or medicinal mushrooms indoors! Our beginner-friendly monotub kit makes mushroom growing easy. Created by mycologists, this complete starter kit is equipped with everything you need to grow mushrooms at home. (All that's required is a spore syringe or...

northspore.com

Heard of them… think it was good from what i recall but im not sure never used them