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[Observer]

But the colonization of spawn needs to be ridiculously sterile. The bags should work but you need to wait for then to fully colonize before mixing with sub.

Better chance of colonization and less contam chance using straight spawn first then mixing with substrate?

I can try that too, rinse the tote that went bad, bleach it and use straight oatmeal or rice first and moist it then add my spores (?)

Simply put

Thanks man

 

[Observer]

Uncle Ben's tote - see a lot of white spots but

A couple little gray spots (?)



I wasn't that sterile In the process, I could definitely try to be more sterile next round.

 

[tobh]

here's what you can do that will be a hell of a lot easier than what you're doing now. Call it a Poor Man's Tek.

1. Get some wild bird seed (WBS). Cheap stuff, try to find some without sunflower seeds. Get some pint mason jars. make some holes in the lids, and cover one with RTV and the other pack with polyfill (pillow filling).
2. Soak the WBS for 12-24 hours. Fish out as many of the floaters as you can, stir the seed, fish out floaters. Repeat until you have almost no floaters. Drain, rinse real good, then put it in a pot and cover it with water. Bring it to a boil SLOWLY then simmer it until you start to see some of the grains burst.
3. Load up the jars about 3/4 of the way. Now, take the jars and put em in a pot, and add water up to about the grain level that's in the jars. Bring this pot to a rolling boil. Boil for one hour. Let cool overnight. Around the same time the next day, do this again at least 3x. What you're doing is allowing bacterial and mold endospores to germinate then killing off the fledgling contaminates.
4. Once #3 is done, in a sterile environment like a SAB, inoculate your jars with your spore solution. Put the jars in a warm dark place to fully colonize.

This will get you spawn much faster, and easier, than what you're doing right now @Observer. Spawn is the last place you can really take a short cut with growing mushrooms given contams will win almost every time if you're not using 100% confirmed sterile media and aseptic techniques. I know it's a bit more money investment but without a pressure cooker or autoclave, and laminar flowhood or dedicated SAB, you're fighting an uphill battle.

 

[Observer]

here's what you can do that will be a hell of a lot easier than what you're doing now. Call it a Poor Man's Tek.

1. Get some wild bird seed (WBS). Cheap stuff, try to find some without sunflower seeds. Get some pint mason jars. make some holes in the lids, and cover one with RTV and the other pack with polyfill (pillow filling).
2. Soak the WBS for 12-24 hours. Fish out as many of the floaters as you can, stir the seed, fish out floaters. Repeat until you have almost no floaters. Drain, rinse real good, then put it in a pot and cover it with water. Bring it to a boil SLOWLY then simmer it until you start to see some of the grains burst.
3. Load up the jars about 3/4 of the way. Now, take the jars and put em in a pot, and add water up to about the grain level that's in the jars. Bring this pot to a rolling boil. Boil for one hour. Let cool overnight. Around the same time the next day, do this again at least 3x. What you're doing is allowing bacterial and mold endospores to germinate then killing off the fledgling contaminates.
4. Once #3 is done, in a sterile environment like a SAB, inoculate your jars with your spore solution. Put the jars in a warm dark place to fully colonize.

This will get you spawn much faster, and easier, than what you're doing right now @Observer. Spawn is the last place you can really take a short cut with growing mushrooms given contams will win almost every time if you're not using 100% confirmed sterile media and aseptic techniques. I know it's a bit more money investment but without a pressure cooker or autoclave, and laminar flowhood or dedicated SAB, you're fighting an uphill battle.

Thanks tobh, I could also give this a try.

 

[Aqua Man]

Better chance of colonization and less contam chance using straight spawn first then mixing with substrate?

I can try that too, rinse the tote that went bad, bleach it and use straight oatmeal or rice first and moist it then add my spores (?)

Simply put

Thanks man

Yup the hard part will be getting the moisture eight with oatmeal. Rice and grains are easier which is why most use whole grains.

 

[Aqua Man]

here's what you can do that will be a hell of a lot easier than what you're doing now. Call it a Poor Man's Tek.

1. Get some wild bird seed (WBS). Cheap stuff, try to find some without sunflower seeds. Get some pint mason jars. make some holes in the lids, and cover one with RTV and the other pack with polyfill (pillow filling).
2. Soak the WBS for 12-24 hours. Fish out as many of the floaters as you can, stir the seed, fish out floaters. Repeat until you have almost no floaters. Drain, rinse real good, then put it in a pot and cover it with water. Bring it to a boil SLOWLY then simmer it until you start to see some of the grains burst.
3. Load up the jars about 3/4 of the way. Now, take the jars and put em in a pot, and add water up to about the grain level that's in the jars. Bring this pot to a rolling boil. Boil for one hour. Let cool overnight. Around the same time the next day, do this again at least 3x. What you're doing is allowing bacterial and mold endospores to germinate then killing off the fledgling contaminates.
4. Once #3 is done, in a sterile environment like a SAB, inoculate your jars with your spore solution. Put the jars in a warm dark place to fully colonize.

This will get you spawn much faster, and easier, than what you're doing right now @Observer. Spawn is the last place you can really take a short cut with growing mushrooms given contams will win almost every time if you're not using 100% confirmed sterile media and aseptic techniques. I know it's a bit more money investment but without a pressure cooker or autoclave, and laminar flowhood or dedicated SAB, you're fighting an uphill battle.

Exactly this…. I used to use bird seed also. Avoid sunflower seeds or pic them out.

I found filling the jars only halfway better because its so much smaller its more packed.

 

[Aqua Man]

Things are moving along.

2 days ago

Yesterday.


Today

 

[Observer]

Hell yea @Aqua Man

 

[Observer]

Things are moving along.

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Sweeeet

 

[Aqua Man]

Hell yea @Aqua Man

Nice you found it… hope they work for ya

 

[Observer]

Nice you found it… hope they work for ya

On way to apartment , apparently electric is back.

 

[Observer]

Albino A+ / UB BRWN rice inoculated

6/21 9:40pm

 

[Observer]

I'ma have to order more KSSS just to have it back.

Loved how aggressive it was

 

[Observer]

Hehe

 

[Observer]

I'll try this shit a few times and then if it fails I'll do the methods you guys say to try

And tbf I'm sure that ac being off for 3 days didn't help lol

 

[Observer]

3 new batches made

 

[Aqua Man]

Good stuff hopefully in 7-10 days you have fully colonized bags bro…. I hope this works for you as it will really be an easy way for ppl to get started doing small batches

 

[Observer]

Good stuff hopefully in 7-10 days you have fully colonized bags bro…. I hope this works for you as it will really be an easy way for ppl to get started doing small batches

thanks man, i think theyll work in the middle closet this time.

 

[Max]

So you will b flying past planet milson soon @Observer .I guess we won’t see you much when you go on a trip

 

[Aqua Man]

Last few spots are filling in still thinking a couple days left.

Yesterday



Today.

 

[Observer]

Some fuzzy

 

[Aqua Man]

Putting the tub into fruiting tomorrow… getting hydrophobic now. Will grab pic’s tomorrow. Gonna get some couch relax time and early bed finally. Have a great weekend ppls

 

[tobh]

Some fuzzy

keep an eye on that. that doesn't look quite right.

 

[Observer]

keep an eye on that. that doesn't look quite right.

Ahh

What could it be?

 

[Observer]

Cob web mold?

 

[tobh]

Ahh

What could it be?

cobweb or trichoderma. it doesn't look like early germinating psilocybe myc to me.

 

[Observer]

cobweb or trichoderma. it doesn't look like early germinating psilocybe myc to me.

Damnit lol

 

[Observer]

. . .

 

[tobh]

. . .

watch for the grey or green in the next 12 hours. whatever that is, is moving very fast and it's not rhyzomorphic. not the type of growth you're after.

seriously, man. do the poor man's tek i posted. you'll get what you're after much easier. trying to do it "budget" isn't budget on your path.

here, nor on the farm, i may not have clout for being a mycologist, but other places my reputation precedes me. so that being said, i'll say this. what you're doing is some tiktok shit like the "recipe" my nephew sent me for DMT extraction -- it's not going to work and will instead introduce health hazards.

do this shit right or don't at all. what you've invested in uncle ben's bags at this point could've bought a 25lb bag of wbs, a 18 rack of pint jars, a tyken paint suit, RTV and polyfill. and it would've saved at least 20cc of spores. time to pivot dude.

i'm not trying to be a dick but i hate seeing the struggle when the struggle is self induced. there's proven ways to do this, and they're more affordable than you'd think.

 

[Observer]

watch for the grey or green in the next 12 hours. whatever that is, is moving very fast and it's not rhyzomorphic. not the type of growth you're after.

seriously, man. do the poor man's tek i posted. you'll get what you're after much easier. trying to do it "budget" isn't budget on your path.

here, nor on the farm, i may not have clout for being a mycologist, but other places my reputation precedes me. so that being said, i'll say this. what you're doing is some tiktok shit like the "recipe" my nephew sent me for DMT extraction -- it's not going to work and will instead introduce health hazards.

do this shit right or don't at all. what you've invested in uncle ben's bags at this point could've bought a 25lb bag of wbs, a 18 rack of pint jars, a tyken paint suit, RTV and polyfill. and it would've saved at least 20cc of spores. time to pivot dude.

i'm not trying to be a dick but i hate seeing the struggle when the struggle is self induced. there's proven ways to do this, and they're more affordable than you'd think.

Thanks man Im starting to see how critical sterility is when trying to grow the right kind of mycellium

Looks like this brute forcing it shit isn't gonna work

 

[tobh]

Thanks man Im starting to see how critical sterility is when trying to grow the right kind of mycellium

Looks like this brute forcing it shit isn't gonna work

100%

this endeavor requires a spearphish approach.

 

[Observer]

100%

this endeavor requires a spearphish approach.

the uncle bens may be ok, that oatmeal was just another little test.

 

[Aqua Man]

Yeah its this stage that most end up giving up on. As @tobh said there isn’t much room for deviation at this stage. I can see the uncle bens tek working. I know like myself you need to see things for yourself but @tobh is 100% right and i dont feel the oatmeal even has a chance to work. The cheap method that he explained with the water bath and wbs can work. But can’t stress enough how diligent you need to be at the mycelium stage. The oatmeal just doesn’t have the shape or properties to be successful

The substrate stage is more forgiving but still try to take every precaution because contam is one of those things that takes less than a day to ruin a tub. Ideally you want avoid tap water unless you are making sterile water yourself also.

 

[2Bad]

You should change your name to “Experimenter” @Observer lmaooo

 

[Aqua Man]

Ok and into fruiting conditions we go. Tape removed, fanned the container and added the pollyfill to the holes. Should see some pinning in the next few days

 

[Aqua Man]

Oh this was exactly 10 days. It was ready probably 2 days ago and for sure yesterday. It was colonized at 75f which is where i like to start but i will play around with this mycelium in the future. Fruiting is about 72f with natural light from a window about 8ft away this time. That will change after this but should be fine. They dont need anything more than ambient and some argue they dont even need that. The mycelium were done in complete darkness but i have done them with light cycles also and it makes no difference

 

[Observer]

Yeah its this stage that most end up giving up on. As @tobh said there isn’t much room for deviation at this stage.

seeing that lol

I can see the uncle bens tek working.

yea those should work.

I know like myself you need to see things for yourself

stubborn ;p

but @tobh is 100% right and i dont feel the oatmeal even has a chance to work.

gotcha, just something i had on hand to see if i could get to colonize.

The cheap method that he explained with the water bath and wbs can work. But can’t stress enough how diligent you need to be at the mycelium stage. The oatmeal just doesn’t have the shape or properties to be successful

The substrate stage is more forgiving but still try to take every precaution because contam is one of those things that takes less than a day to ruin a tub. Ideally you want avoid tap water unless you are making sterile water yourself also.

yea ill be trying other methods like you guys suggested next batches.

ill have to get some things

 

[Observer]

So what the hell am I growing here lol

I can't tell if that's gray or white

Doesn't really look gray to me.

 

[Observer]

yoooo

The B+Var UB Rice bag has a rice at the bottom with some white fuzz on it.

 

[Observer]

Yeah its this stage that most end up giving up on.

Never