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Oh man... I wonder if calcium was precipitating because of how I was doing this .. and a contributing factor to the cal deficiency...
You can test this on the bench.
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100% this. at least diluted 10:1
I remember this. Its because the agsil wasn’t buffering well enough.yes i double checked it's on the correct setting. just checked them again and same reading.. 60-62°
70.5, just double checked that as well. same in rez and both plant sites. just to be clear a few days ago when all this was going on i was second guessing all my instruments for accuracy and i had found that my water temp was off, so up until a few days ago my water temp was 74. i posted it a few days ago, i'll go back and look when.. but yeah they entire first three weeks it was 74. it is now 70.
because you told me to. haha
seriously though you did.. here..
Stoney's Soil vs Hydro Apple Fritter Auto show
good to know. will it give the whole system a slime coat of it, or will it mainly stick to the roots? just curios if i ever decide to change nutrient brands or types or go sterile is it going to be a problem? It may coat the system but it’s beneficial bacteria. So don’t wipe it off. It will be...
and here: https://budbuilders.org/threads/stoneys-soil-vs-hydro-apple-fritter-auto-show.1061/page-4#post-86583
and also along with Aqua helping me in the beginning he taught me that as a buffer any combo of K works better as a team than any one single form of it will.
so i carefully add this to water and use it as a 10% KOH..
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do you think if they get better i should just top off and not even do a change out?
very steady Moe, like right at 300ppm the entire time.
looks good today too... i'll get some new pics up in a bit..
no , no worries.. never a hijack hen learning!!!
i've done it this way because i had no bad habits when i started so i was taught the textbook way and just continue that way.
plus at the time Aqua was helping get my solution figured out and was making test batches that were sitting overnight so it was all taught i good practice.
i mix mine up in a 7.8% liquid solution as per mfg and then add this liquid to my water barrel. first i add half the water then the agsil liquid then the second half of the water. then ph down then i let it sit for 30 minutes before adding the cal mag.
Recipe for 7.8% Solution:
780: 1
148g : 1 L
560g : 1 gal
Mix 148 grams AgSil 16H into 1 liter water or 560 grams per gallon. Store in bottle or jar and shake well before use. (1 lb = 454 g). Use this 7.8% solution at 1/4 - 1/2 teaspoon per gallon water.
WARNING: Causes eye and skin irritation. Avoid contact with eyes, skin and clothing. Wash thoroughly after handling.
Never mix concentrated silica solutions with other concentrated fertilizers. It is best practice to make up the liquid solution first or add water prior to mixing the powder with other ingredients or nutrients.
When mixing, be sure to add water to the container first. Fill the container halfway with water and then add the Agsil before filling the rest of the way and then mixing thoroughly.
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so far this has worked well for me at 2ml of 7.8% per gallon of water. then another ml per gallon of the KOH. this brings my water up to about 60-70 ppm
AHAHA
Ha you got Moed~!
was that spectral ratio cooking them with combined environment of not being able to handle the light?
Yes you are the king!
Nah your all good bro. As for the light just play by ear. See how they look after 5 days then if you post a pic i can look at leaf orientation.it was that armor si that wasn't working well. once you had me get away from that it's been much better. ph is about the only thing i don't have an issue with anymore.
after i got more comfortable with it i made another test batch with that armor si and it was a total failure yet again.
the fan has been off, well last night i put it back on setting 1 and pointed it up at the ceiling to move the humidity and heat around. no wind on the plants at all.
i just turned up the heat to 79 this should keep it right at 80.
and once they recover do you think i can start to add more light? just a little?
i mean man i just got another light to put in there!!!!! there's gonna be two of those 550's in there just like in my other cabinet!! not maybe, it's gonna happen. i already have the light...
i'm gonna need it for flowering, one is not gonna be enough.
i won't overdo it.. i understand. but there is a clear reason on why one plant is smaller than the other and thats the light placement. it's not centered correctly over the buckets and the left plant gets the sweet spot. soon they will both have a sweet spot!!!
i know you're shaking your head at me right now... hahaha
well....you could bring the light closer to plant to keep the leaf temps up higher, and just turn the PPFD down slightly to match the difference...but more adjusting and balancing...
one way i see it, higher ppfd is more energy to the plants, therefore they may need to pull more nutrients, might not be able to if the variables that dictate nutrient uptake are hampered.
The wind mostly
Some of my best grows had the leaves praying.
It's funny when knowledge explains reality..
No metals fall out first. They are picky.
So micro nutrients basically?
Nute ratios look good to me… i agree praying is good to a point. Ideally i look for the top 3 node to have leaves slightly V shaped and the lower flat. This seems to be about my limits before light stress. With co2Some of my best grows had the leaves praying.
I like to push things. But results like Stoney is getting are common if I go too far in one way or another.
@Stoneyluv I promise you can use that light to its full potential if we get this dialed back in.
Tell me about the genetics. Have you grown this before?
Your roots are too small to get the full hydro advantage. If this were my grow I’d be focused on root growth once you are happy you are back on the fairway. If everything is back on point the root growth should outpace the green growth at this stage. If it does not something needs tweaking. Daily pics of roots would be helpful.
Since your ph has been so stable additional bubbling could not hurt. I’ll also pack up and send you that do probe tomorrow. You will need do calibration solution I’ll send you an Amazon link when I get to pc.
Res temp of 72* and max do for your altitude is the goal. If your Bennie’s load contains fungi too that’s preferred. Pretty amazing the symbiosis if you never looked up what that does. What is your elevation?
I know paying for heat sux but I’d push the tent up to 80. That will make them drink
How is your co2 level? I’m assuming lung room around 400?
At this point in veg I would set to 800 and head up to 1200 in flower. Not sure if you have co2 but if so on healthy plants in flower you can use every bit of that light you have there. I run maxed out most of the time in flower. Then you won’t need any heat your problem will be humidity and cooling it down lol.
I’m thinking it’s time to cull those questionable leaves at the bottom.
I’m a little concerned you have too much k. koh and pot sil and
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Feels highly unbalanced to me. Let me think on that a minute.
You used to run the Diablo 650 right? And sf 7000?
know paying for heat sux but I’d push the tent up to 80. That will make them drink
all sounds good man.i just got done moving the light and changing the spectrum and power so i'm gonna let this ride till i feel more comfortable changig it again at least a couple days anyway..
i'm confident, i let horsepower fly on the first grow when they were in flower, i just gotta have patience.
no, but a few peeps here have, G$ has.
i was hoping for better roots Moe, it was the #1 goal this grow and it's better than last time with the hydroten but this isn't good enough. i have this coming tomorrow...
yeah i opened up all the valves a couple days ago.. it's running four stones so it's not over agitative at all.
i'm just under 1k feet, like 960 or something like that.
i understand, already accepted it! turned it up earlier and running right at 80 now. giving it a few hours to stabilize and check the rest and get some pics too.
yeah it's low, maybe better than 400.. i don't remember. i go put my meter in there now..
i don't have any source of co2, what i got is what i got for now..
i wanted to ask if it's okay to do that.. i'll trim em up now!!
we're all learning man.. your plants obviously look better than mine so i'll suck up any knowledge i can!!
do you think i'm adding to much potassium from the start?
do you know what a good starting ppm of K would be? (considering i'm adding about 200 ppm of nova grow)
